Comment on Anon questions our energy sector

Comment105@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Na it’s dumb. The issue with the magic rocks isn’t the direct consequences like with the fire. The issue with these rocks are long terms with the consequences on humans and the environment thousands of years later.

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  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What consequences?
    There are no consequences for animals in Chernobyl, not even to mammals living underground.

    People that didn’t leave the exclusion zone died of old age there.

    Life on Earth had to deal with all sorts of radiation.

    What caused mass extinction was ecosystem change, eg via global climate change.

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  • dev_null@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, the environmental issues that are orders of magnitude less problematic than literally pumping the toxic chemicals into the atmosphere like with fossil fuels, vs comparatively miniscule amount of solid waste to store inert.

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    • moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The comparison is dumb. The subject was the comparaison, and not what type of energy is better for the environment.

      You’re interpreting.

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    • T156@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Coal smoke is more radioactive than the outside of a fission reactor anyhow.

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  • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    these rocks are long terms with the consequences on humans and the environment thousands of years later.

    You bury them in concrete, done. Nuclear waste isn’t an issue and hasn’t ever been

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    • spirinolas@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, just bury it and make it someone else’s problem in the future.

      I’ve seen this train of thinking somewhere. Spoiler alert, it was a bad idea.

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      • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        someone else’s problem in the future

        Nope, if you bury it in a few inches of concrete it’s literally never a problem again unless society somehow completely collapsed and all knowledge of nuclear waste is lost

        I’ve seen this train of thinking somewhere. Spoiler alert, it was a bad idea.

        I’ve seen this level of confidence from people who don’t know what they’re talking about before. Spoiler alert, it’s embarrassing for you

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• Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Except the retard didn’t just burn his house down, he burned thousands of people’s houses down in such a way that nobody could ever live there again, and came very close to burning down the whole continent in the same way.

  (I’m still in favour of spicy rock steam)

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  • areyouevenreal@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There was never any real risk of ruining an entire continent. Stop watching TV shows like Chernobyl for accurate information. Perhaps some people thought that at the time, but we now know that kind of thing is impossible. It could have been a worse accident for sure if there was another steam explosion and it would have effected a wider area, but not even close to a continent lol.

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  • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Isn’t nuclear energy like super safe and have killed incredibly few people compared to all the other energy sources?

    Or are you talking about destilling the magic rocks very much and putting them in a bomb?

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    • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Exactly.

      The whole clusterfuck of mishandled Chernobyl cleanup & everything there before and after only claimed a few lives (via direct radiation tissue damage or just accidents).

      Compare that with the daily average of thousands of killed in various (ultimately) oil wars.

      But we don’t even get news about that.

      But western propaganda sure showed us malformed babies & claimed it was from radiation - it turns out it was all bullshit, it was always a toxic chemical behind it (unregulated industries selling toxic shit by the tonnes - fertilisers, paints, even biological warfare).

      We just take radiation super seriously and completely disregard toxic chemical pollution of eg industrial spillages. People just get to live in polluted areas and die sooner because of that. Instead of living for longer & less health hazards but with a little radiation.

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      • areyouevenreal@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        While I think most of this is true, I do doubt your claim that Chernobyl didn’t cause birth defects. Even if it didn’t cause defects in humans because they were evacuated, it still caused birth defects in animals that stayed behind. I mean the thing killed a forest. It’s easier to cause mutations than outright kill something.

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  • frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Or to put it another way, we almost ruined a large swath of land and learned from that mistake, but chose not to use it so when we do have to switch to nukes because destroyed our planet we will have forgotten all those lessons and do it again.

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