Comment on Passport-less clearance fully available at Changi Airport, average clearance time of 10 seconds: ICA

• Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I really dislike this argument. Just because it’s “their country, their rules” doesn’t make it an issue? Especially when it comes to privacy concerns. Privacy concerns are universal.

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  • slickgoat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Unfortunately this has always been the case with other country’s rules. I’m not a fan of Uas gun culture, but I’m not American, so I don’t get a vote.

    Nobody is forcing you to visit either Singapore or North Korea.

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    • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mean, North Koreans did kidnap people from abroad, so technically…

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      • slickgoat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        True. But if that happened to you involuntary data violations would be the least of your problems.

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  • moe90@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think this kind of biometric immigration verification will come to many countries eventually. Like UK, Japan and USA already tested this kind of procedure and Singapore is just one step ahead with this full implementation. So, we just can’t avoid it. If this kind of verification concerns you a lot just don’t travel abroad.

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    • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It is the standard means of passport control in Europe and UK, just with the passport added, but all by machine. Once they are convinced the biometrics are good enough they’ll do this too to speed things up.

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    • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Singapore isn’t one step ahead, it’s full-on surveillance state.

      The implications here are that if you go through this process, then these biometrics will bought and sold throughout the world. You’ll be tracked absolutely everywhere.

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      • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        biometrics will bought and sold throughout the world. You’ll be tracked absolutely everywhere.

        But it is the same if you have a regular (non-anonymous) social media account.

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    • Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah it’s for sure an issue in the rest of the world too. Not discounting that

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• Telodzrum@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I mean, yeah I don’t need to go to Singapore.

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• thejml@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  At the moment it sounds optional, so that’s a plus.

  Also:

  The previous average clearance time for each traveller was 25 seconds, said ICA.

  So, 15s saved per person. Which is handy, but 25 seconds fits squarely in the “blazing fast” category anyway.

  Bet the people will spend more than 15s per person dealing with the ramifications of their biometric data getting leaked and used against them later though.

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  • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Agreed with the privacy concerns but

    So, 15s saved per person. Which is handy, but 25 seconds fits squarely in the “blazing fast” category anyway.

    This is huge when there are five 787s worth of people in line for ten passport control machines, it’s the difference between waiting half an hour in line or five minutes.

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    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      you know, half an hour is really not that much. I would easily choose that

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    • 0x0@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is huge when there are five 787s worth of people in line for ten passport control machines

      Perhaps more passport control instead of more invasiveness?

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      • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Sure, I agree

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  • moe90@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I was there on transit hall couple of months ago and on the arrival hall everything is paperless already and all the paperwork can be done via phone or tablet.

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    • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So you’re just giving up any personal freedom to save some time. If you’re cool with that, alright. Some people aren’t though.

      None of this tech is 100% accurate either. You could be passing through and get inferences that peg you as an international drug lord that ends up in prison or worse.

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      • moe90@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        I am not said I am fine with it. But, if you don’t want to comply with their requirement. you can’t enter their country and I am sure this kind of paperless and biometric immigration check will come to many countries (UK, USA, Japan, Canada already tested it) and it is inevitable. the only workaround atm is just don’t travel abroad.

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    • thejml@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Paperless doesn’t necessarily require biometric data… still, I’ll just skip Singapore.

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