Comment on Passport-less clearance fully available at Changi Airport, average clearance time of 10 seconds: ICA

Telodzrum@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• Meltrax@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Have you flown international lately? This is what it looks like to land in the international terminal in most major US airports as well.

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  • Telodzrum@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Have you? I travel a lot for both business and leisure. I’ve never been through anything like this. Maybe I’m just visiting more civilized places.

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    • Meltrax@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I flew into Boston from Europe three weeks ago.

      I also flew into NYC from Europe earlier this year.

      They use images of your face and biometrics. This is how travel works. It has nothing to do with how civilized you think you are.

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      • moe90@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah, biometric identification will be de-facto standard for travelling in the future and we cannot avoid it unless we want to stop travelling.

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      • Waffle@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Same, recently traveled from the US to Paris and they used a facial scanner. Also used one upon my return to the US and I have Global Entry.

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• moe90@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  then you don’t need to come to Singapore. their country their rules

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  • Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I really dislike this argument. Just because it’s “their country, their rules” doesn’t make it an issue? Especially when it comes to privacy concerns. Privacy concerns are universal.

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    • slickgoat@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Unfortunately this has always been the case with other country’s rules. I’m not a fan of Uas gun culture, but I’m not American, so I don’t get a vote.

      Nobody is forcing you to visit either Singapore or North Korea.

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      • Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I mean, North Koreans did kidnap people from abroad, so technically…

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    • moe90@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I think this kind of biometric immigration verification will come to many countries eventually. Like UK, Japan and USA already tested this kind of procedure and Singapore is just one step ahead with this full implementation. So, we just can’t avoid it. If this kind of verification concerns you a lot just don’t travel abroad.

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      • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Singapore isn’t one step ahead, it’s full-on surveillance state.

        The implications here are that if you go through this process, then these biometrics will bought and sold throughout the world. You’ll be tracked absolutely everywhere.

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      • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It is the standard means of passport control in Europe and UK, just with the passport added, but all by machine. Once they are convinced the biometrics are good enough they’ll do this too to speed things up.

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      • Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Yeah it’s for sure an issue in the rest of the world too. Not discounting that

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  • thejml@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    At the moment it sounds optional, so that’s a plus.

    Also:

    The previous average clearance time for each traveller was 25 seconds, said ICA.

    So, 15s saved per person. Which is handy, but 25 seconds fits squarely in the “blazing fast” category anyway.

    Bet the people will spend more than 15s per person dealing with the ramifications of their biometric data getting leaked and used against them later though.

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    • moe90@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I was there on transit hall couple of months ago and on the arrival hall everything is paperless already and all the paperwork can be done via phone or tablet.

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      • thejml@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Paperless doesn’t necessarily require biometric data… still, I’ll just skip Singapore.

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      • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        So you’re just giving up any personal freedom to save some time. If you’re cool with that, alright. Some people aren’t though.

        None of this tech is 100% accurate either. You could be passing through and get inferences that peg you as an international drug lord that ends up in prison or worse.

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    • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Agreed with the privacy concerns but

      So, 15s saved per person. Which is handy, but 25 seconds fits squarely in the “blazing fast” category anyway.

      This is huge when there are five 787s worth of people in line for ten passport control machines, it’s the difference between waiting half an hour in line or five minutes.

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      • 0x0@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        This is huge when there are five 787s worth of people in line for ten passport control machines

        Perhaps more passport control instead of more invasiveness?

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      • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        you know, half an hour is really not that much. I would easily choose that

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  • Telodzrum@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I mean, yeah I don’t need to go to Singapore.

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