Comment on Men Harassed A Woman In A Driverless Waymo, Trapping Her In Traffic

• capital@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Note how I left out theft. That’s because you can’t directly use violence to protect property.

  I remember hearing this when I lived in the UK for a few years and I was blown away. What are you expected to do if being robbed? Let it happen?

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  • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Pretty much; then get the police to deal with it.

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    • capital@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, not here.

      I’ve had shit stolen. The police “handled it” to an extent but we will never get back priceless family heirlooms given to us from my wife’s side of the family. Fuck thieves.

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      • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Did you not have a gun at the time? Or did your ownership of a gun not prevent the theft?

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      • absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Agreed thieves are terrible.

        Not many better options if you are getting robbed though.

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  • T156@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You do what the police do, and provide a proportionate response.

    A gun is only to be used if you are in imminent danger of your life. A robbery is arguably not that, unless they’re trying to steal your organs or prostheses.

    There’s a reason your average supermarket security guard doesn’t immediately whip out the Mini-Nuke the moment they see a shoplifter.

    There’s also something to be said about the place you’re living in, where you’re to be terrified of stabbists and robberers the moment you step out-of-doors. Do you live in a hive of scum and villainy?

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  • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Call the police. Are you in physical danger? If not why are you putting yourself in physical danger?

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    • capital@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t think I understand your question.

      What scenario are you imagining with these questions?

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  • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There is a solution, it’s called insurance. I know that you wouldn’t get your family heirlooms back, but neither would you being armed but not home.

    I know the other guy wouldn’t say it, so I’ll go ahead and do it: you sound like you’re out for revenge, but you don’t know on whom to exact it. I fear that you could end up shooting a porch pirate in the back while claiming self defense.

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    • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      you sound like you’re out for revenge

      They’ve taken the mask off and said the quiet part out loud: They’re just out to kill people they think of as less than human.

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    • capital@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There is a solution, it’s called insurance. I know that you wouldn’t get your family heirlooms back

      Then it isn’t exactly a solution, is it? The jewelry probably only would appraise for <$1000 (probably far less). It’s not about the monetary cost.

      but neither would you being armed but not home.

      Yeah…? I don’t get this line of argument. This just in - guns only effective when there’s a human there to operate it. No shit…

      You’re simultaneously arguing that guns are overkill to solve theft and that guns don’t solve theft.

      I fear that you could end up shooting a porch pirate in the back while claiming self defense.

      The state I live in currently wouldn’t allow for me to use deadly force to protect property. But states I’ve lived in in the past sure would. As of now, I would have to be in fear of great bodily harm or death in order to employ deadly force and that’s the standard I will follow. Just keep in mind that many robberies involve a deadly weapon on the perpetrators side which is an immediate green light on my end.

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