Sure sure, the speed cam after the slope is for safety, mhm.
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then_three_more@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Road safety is bad mmkay
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
then_three_more@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean I don’t know how you could think it wouldn’t be. Well signposted camera will help you pay more attention to your speed on the slope, it’s woods so presumably animals could run out at you.
If you can’t see a bright fucking yellow speed camera, and haven’t been paying attention to the ten dozen signed, then that’s 100% on you.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
They are hidden here, not yellow bright.
then_three_more@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Fixed speed camera housings located within an area of street or highway lighting should be coloured yellow either by painting both the front and back of the housing or covering both the front and back of the housing with retroreflective sheeting. In an area not covered by street or highway lighting, the speed camera housing should be treated with yellow retroreflective sheeting.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
In the US every state I’ve seen has to put multiple warning signs out, starting about a mile out. It’s 100% obvious.
obinice@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s clearly bright yellow.
Besides, you shouldn’t have to be threatened with a speed camera to just stay under the bloody speed limit. It’s literally a crime not to, and besides that it’s reckless and dangerous.
Idiots that speed in cars deserve a special kind of hell where they’re tortured by all the children their kind have murdered.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Another stereotype busted for me. I really thought it’s an ex-Soviet thing. “Скажи-ка, дядя, ведь недаром в кустах ты прячешься с радаром?”
JayDee@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Probably you should be breaking on the hill? Regardless of if you’re foot’s on the gas or your just letting the slope do the work, you’re still speeding which is a hazard.
Yeah, I’m sure it also racks up some revenue too. Why not get a few more bucks while keeping the careless on their toes?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
55 instead of 50 (because steep slope) is speeding?
JayDee@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Yep, that’s in 8.5% increase on freeways and 2.8% increase on other roads. Better keep the brake down.
AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Do you have a source for your belief that speed cameras make the road significantly safer?
then_three_more@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
In the vicinity of camera sites, the pre/post reductions ranged from 8% to 49% for all crashes and 11% to 44% for fatal and serious injury crashes. Compared with controls, the relative improvement in pre/post injury crash proportions ranged from 8% to 50%.
AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
However, whilst the the evidence base clearly demonstrates a positive direction in the effect, an overall magnitude of this effect is currently not deducible due to heterogeneity and lack of methodological rigour. More studies of a scientifically rigorous and homogenous nature are necessary, to provide the answer to the magnitude of effect.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Nice of you to take that out of context.
Thirty five studies met the inclusion criteria. Compared with controls, the relative reduction in average speed ranged from 1% to 15% and the reduction in proportion of vehicles speeding ranged from 14% to 65%. In the vicinity of camera sites, the pre/post reductions ranged from 8% to 49% for all crashes and 11% to 44% for fatal and serious injury crashes. Compared with controls, the relative improvement in pre/post injury crash proportions ranged from 8% to 50%.
Authors’ conclusions: Despite the methodological limitations and the variability in degree of signal to noise effect, the consistency of reported reductions in speed and crash outcomes across all studies show that speed cameras are a worthwhile intervention for reducing the number of road traffic injuries and deaths. However, whilst the the evidence base clearly demonstrates a positive direction in the effect, an overall magnitude of this effect is currently not deducible due to heterogeneity and lack of methodological rigour. More studies of a scientifically rigorous and homogenous nature are necessary, to provide the answer to the magnitude of effect.
the consistency of reported reductions in speed and crash outcomes across all studies show that speed cameras are a worthwhile intervention for reducing the number of road traffic injuries and deaths
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
cameras do NOT make the roads safer. it’s a revenue stream based off ripping off it’s citizens. if anything everyone slams on their brakes when they see one causing more accidents.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Why is this unfounded argument getting upvoted so heavily? Objectively the science says that it reduces injuries and deaths. Per the linked Cochrane systematic review of 35 studies:
People on the Internet will just upvote the most confidently incorrect shit as long as it has enough confidence behind it and it vaguely aligns with their preconceptions, I swear.
jballs@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I think the sentiment against them stems from the fact that there are ways to reduce speeds without feeling like they’re being used as a revenue stream.
Personally I like when there are warning signs saying “Speed camera in use ahead” since it has the effect of slowing down traffic and not feeling like a “gotcha” moment.
TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It should feel like a “gotcha” moment, though, or it only properly enforces speeds near the speed camera. If you can’t be certain that you’re not going to run into a speed camera but you have a general understanding that they’re around, you’re going to be much more likely not to speed in general versus just when you see the sign telling you to slow down. The reduction in speed from the sign is still better than nothing, but it lets drivers compartmentalize where there are “safe” zones to speed, and that partly defeats the purpose.
rbesfe@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Maybe just drive the speed limit?
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
yes, because no one has ever gotten a ticket or in trouble for something they didn’t do.
celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
This is such a bland nothingburger of an argument. Don’t follow the law because…sometimes police give speeding tickets to people who weren’t speeding?
then_three_more@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Except they do make it safer and because there’s always tonnes of signs around them you don’t get the brake slamming. They act as a deterrent.
Mobile speed traps, however, are a definite revenue boost.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
they do not post camera signs in US
then_three_more@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Maybe you guys ought to campaign to get the law changed. They used to be grey over here, but pressure was put on the government and how they’re all high vis yellow with loads of warnings before them.
celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Give it up, bro. Everyone here wants to circlejerk that breaking the law is cool.
then_three_more@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It only seems to be since the yanks woke up.
gmtom@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They litterally demonstrably do. Either actually engage your brain and loom things up instead of parroting nonsense or take your bullshit back to reddit.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
k