Comment on Rockstar Games DDoSed Heavily By Players Protesting New AntiCheat Code

• mp3@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Those are legitimate victims, fuck the cheaters.

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  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The cheaters have already found a way to bypass this stupid shit. It only affects legitimate users and cheaters too stupid to figure out the seemingly trivial workaround.

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• jonne@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Eh, I was playing it on steam deck, GTA online was just not worth it with all the cheating anyway.

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  • ysjet@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Because it’s cheaper than actually implementing working anti heat instead of just stealing control of your computer and leaving gaping vulnerabilities on it.

    After all, why would they care? It’s not their computer.

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  • Wrench@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Man, that sounds familiar. I gave up on Escape from Tarkov for the same reason.

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    • jonne@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      It’s just ridiculous the stuff you see that should be easy to catch with basic server scripts. Players conjuring money and vehicles out of thin air, moving impossibly fast, vehicles/players with seemingly unlimited hit points, etc. You could easily catch that shit on the server side and ban the cheaters, but instead they go for the most invasive client side shit.

      Sure, if you want to stamp out stuff like aim bots and whatever eventually you’ll need to look at the client side of things, but in a decade they didn’t seem to do anything at all.

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      • Soggy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        That kind of stuff catches legitimate users all the time. In Rust for example it’s common to get kicked for “fly hacking” while jumping on vehicles. The more open-ended the game the more weird edge cases become very relevant. Especially if it has a halfway decent physics sim. Tons of ways to give players weird velocities. Then it has to account for the variance ping introduces…

        Some stuff, yeah. Should be easy to check if a player has too much HP. But spoofed communication between the client and server is a tough nut to crack when you can only see what the client wants you to see. Keeping everything server-side would help but that introduces latency to every input, unacceptable for anything even moderately paced.

        All thay said, it would be a lot easier to swallow the “necessary evil” argument if it actually fucking worked.

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Server-side checks cost processing power and memory hence they need to spend more on servers.

    Client side kernel-level anti-cheat only ever consumer resources and cause problems to the actual gamers, not directly to Rockstart’s bottom line.

    If Rockstar’s management theory is that gamers will endure just about any level of shit and keep on giving them money (a posture which, so far, has proven correct for just about every large game maker doing that kind of shit) then they will logically conclude that their bottom line won’t even suffer indirectly from making life harder for their existing clients whilst it will most definitelly suffer if they have more server costs due to implementing server side checks for cheating.

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• cm0002@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Battleye is supported on steam deck

  But honestly FUCK kernel level ACs

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  • KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Battleye is, but they didn’t enable it for Linux. Literally a switch, and they failed to do so.

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• independantiste@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Heh, I would say the cheaters are generally much more immature and likely to DDOS. I think there is a lot of overlap over video game cheaters and script kiddies, especially when the cheaters are called hackers

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  • Damage@feddit.it ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Qnd cheaters have money (the same they use to buy cheats) to pay for botnets

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• flashgnash@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  I’m upset they nuked Linux support, my PC is Linux and have a steam deck

  I’m still not going to fucking ddos them for it

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• Linktank@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Yeah that’s shitty. I’d rather the cheaters ruin the game for a subsection of the populace rather than all of them though.

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• paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Linux users playing dirty? Not a good look.

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