Comment on Microsoft inks deal to restart Three Mile Island nuclear reactor to fuel its voracious AI ambitions

qarbone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Are we eventually gonna get more fusion […]

  Either you mean fission, or the “more” could be omitted.

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• assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Most likely more fossil fuels because they’re faster and cheaper to roll out.

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• Vince@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  This is how I’m able to sleep without worrying about death, one of these billionaires has got to be funding research so they can live forever. No guarantee they’ll share but that’s at least a less dread inducing issue.

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  • lime@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    yeah, larry ellison

    Ellison’s biographer Mark Wilson notes that Ellison sees death as “just another kind of corporate opponent he can outfox.”

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• irotsoma@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Yeah, too bad there’s no long-term storage for the waste so it will mean more and more leaks polluting land for centuries since the power companies will just go bankrupt when it’s time to do anything about it like with most forms of pollution.

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  • iopq@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    The amount of waste is tiny. Coal plants cause more radiation than nuclear plants because of tiny amounts of radioactive matter in coal. You need to burn so much coal the amount of radioactivity is higher per unit of energy.

    Until we shut down all coal plants we shouldn’t even think about closing nuclear plants

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    • irotsoma@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      That’s for normal activity and it’s totally irrelevant. So these are some stats about ionizing radiation dosages:

      • Average from all sources for an average person for 1 year: 4mSv
      • Additional if living within 50 miles of a nuclear reactor for 1 year: 0.09 µSv
      • Additional of living within 50 miles of a coal plant for 1 year: 0.3 µSv
      • Living within 30 km of Chernobyl before evacuation (10 days): 3-150 mSv
      • Maximum allowed dose for radiation workers over 1 year: 50mSv
      • 10 minutes next to the Chernobyl reactor after the meltdown: 50Sv

      So, yes, nuclear power plants and storage pools are designed to shield radiation and thus during normal operation release an insignificant amount of radiation so much so that even coal burning releases a heck of a lot more.

      But both of those are extremely insignificant if you consider that living near a coal plant will only give you a tiny fraction of additional exposure as the amount of radiation you receive normally from natural sources.

      The problem is that with nuclear fission waste, a tiny leak can cause fatal amounts of exposure in a very short time. If a storage pool cracks after the 100 years or so they’re designed to last, or if a flood happens and overflows a storage pool, or a tornado picks up that storage water, or any number of other catastrophic events happen within the 10,000-1,000,000 years before that waste is safe, depending on the type, the people living nearby will likely not survive very long and that area will be contaminated for many times longer than human life has existed.

      Fukushima was a good example and had to rely on the vast Pacific ocean to disperse the radiation. Chernobyl will be unsafe for 10s of thousands of years even if the coffin is maintained for all that time.

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