Comment on Burning Up

CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• expatriado@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  a 69°C cup coffee on winter is nice

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• Lizardking27@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Also it’s a 0-100 scale of how hot it is outside, and it requires no prior understanding to use it as such.

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  • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The freezing point of water is very important to weather, and requires prior knowledge of the arbitrary number 32.

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    • Lizardking27@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Okay so fahrenheit has a well-defined high and low, but an arbitrary freezing point of one certain chemical. All other chemical freezing points are arbitrary.

      Celsius has an arbitrary high and low, but a well-defined freezing point of that same chemical. All other freezing points are arbitrary.

      If your motivation is to minimize the amount of arbitrary values you have to memorize, fahrenheit is the clear winner.

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      • criticon@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The 0 in Fahrenheit was based on nothing and the 100F was supposed to be human temperature but it is off by some degrees

        The water is not an arbitrary temperature, the weather is water dependant, at 0C the water will freeze and you get snow/ice instead of rain

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      • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s not like the weather depends on the boiling point of formaldehyde…

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      • AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The zero C is freezing and 100 C is boiling, so not really arbitrary.

        But it’s pretty hard to define a scale that has intuitive, round numbers for everything we might care about.

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    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      yeah, and let me know how accurate our weather models and prediction systems are. Can you calculate accurately how much the temperature in a specific part of the atmosphere will drop to a large updraft?

      What’s that? This is literally an entire career field of study and development? Oh that’s weird.

      Also the only real time this is relevant, is when things that have this weird property called thermal mass get below freezing, it’s snowing in 30f weather? That’s not sticking, the ground is too warm. or the sun will literally just melt it even if it is cold enough. Water? You mean that weird thing called like, a lake or river? Those get below freezing, without actively freezing, lakes won’t even drop that much in terms of temperature, aside from the surface level. The surface may freeze, but even that is pretty variable.

      Also yes, it’s the arbitrary number of 32, so is literally every number though. We have 2 numbers to remember, you also have 2 numbers to remember, god forbid you have like, a password, or a passcode, or like, a numbers based lock somewhere. Humans have never been known to be good at memorizing short strings of data.

      like idk how to tell you this, but, it’s not that big of a deal?

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  • Mrs_deWinter@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If that was true outsiders should be able to use Fahrenheit without much explanation. I’ve never got a clue what the °F values mean, I always have to use a converter. It’s really not as intuitive as people who grew up with it seem to believe.

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    • KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If that was true outsiders should be able to use Fahrenheit without much explanation. I’ve never got a clue what the °F values mean, I always have to use a converter. It’s really not as intuitive as people who grew up with it seem to believe.

      because it’s all relative, and you need to actually know how the temperatures relate to the things you’re experiencing? I’m going to hazard a guess and say you’re comfortable with using celsius? Oops cognitive bias. You would have to test this on someone who doesn’t understand temperature yet. It just so happens that here in the US, it pretty conveniently lines up with those figures for us.

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      • Mrs_deWinter@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If your example cannot be proven on any existing person I’d argue it’s hardly relevant to our reality.

        °F most definitely isn’t intuitive enough for people who aren’t accustomed to it to use. If it is more intuitive at all, it’s not to any meaningful degree.

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  • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Exactly. Fahrenheit is just metric weather.

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