Comment on iPhone 16 is here, but I’m hyped for just one reason: RCS on iOS 18

• chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Not entirely true… the American Android users care about it; Apple users will still default to the superior iMessage as opposed to the inconsistent carrier dependant RCS; rest of the world will use geo-preferred third party messaging app that also offer consistent experience between carriers.

  “Buy your mom an iPhone” people.

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  • BorgDrone@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Not entirely true… the American Android users care about it;

    Then I guess it’s nice for both of them that iOS will support RCS.

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  • Ilandar@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I can’t read that without this song popping into my head.

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• yoshisaur@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  aww. does apple being forced to allow the newest messaging standard hurt you?

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  • chiisana@lemmy.chiisana.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    No, they’re mostly correct; basically no one except Android users in the USA cares. Everywhere else has it figured out with third party messaging platforms that’s geographically favored, and Apple users in USA will continue to use the superior iMessage protocol with each other. Only the Android users in USA are left out from sending/receiving messaging, so they’re salivating over the update like it’s the best thing since sliced bread.

    RCS is janky, inconsistent, and carrier dependent. Can’t wait for Android users in the USA to join the better rest of the world. Until GSM consortium mandates end to end encryption and force all carriers to adopt certain version of consistent minimum, RCS is and will continue to be a garbage inferior protocol that should be avoided like the plague.

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  • BorgDrone@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Doesn’t matter either way because everyone uses WhatsApp anyway.

    RCS will never be able to compete with either because it’s a GSMA standard. Apple or Meta can think of a cool new feature, add it to their client and roll it out to all their users with the next update.

    If they want to add a new feature to RCS, the GSMA (An organization with over 1500 members) will have to for a committee, they can then talk about their conflicting interestes for a few years before writing down a new version of the standard, then dozens of clients and servers at hundreds of different operators need to be upgraded before everyone can use the new feature. Due to this bullshit RCS will never be able to keep up.

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    • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      WhatsApp is big outside the U.S. inside the U.S., I don’t know a single person who uses it.

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  • Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Honestly, where I operate, almost nobody uses (outgoing) sms/mms - unless their phone has actual physical buttons on it. It’s all iMessage for those who can or something like Viber for those who can’t. I can’t see why anybody would take a step backwards to RCS when it offered nothing that we haven’t already been doing for years - and it’s apparently network dependant.

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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  They do in the US.

  But on a global scale, you’re right.

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  • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    None of my android friends have RCS on their phone, but my iPhone does.

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    • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      It’s more than likely that every single one of your Android friends have RCS on their phones.

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      • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I am absolutely positive none of them do.

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• HeyLow@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  I care, I can finally wifi text iPhone users who won’t use signal or even discord

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  • RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Especially not discord you mean.

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    • HeyLow@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Any of my comms through these means have no security implications anyway. They would have gone through unencrypted sms before this, so idrc if discord or the feds would know my very limited plans with friends and family. I just care that my already unencrypted messages won’t take multiple hours to go through soon

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  • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Important to note those chats won’t be encrypted.

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    • HeyLow@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Ofc, neither was sms

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      • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Well I just bring it up because part of RCS is encryption, but there are a lot of asterisks and one of them is that RCS with Apple will never be encrypted.

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