Why? Can you elaborate on why this is not an issue and kids should be monitored by a 3rd party?
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Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
…on students’ school-issued machines and accounts.
These are school issued machines, and like all machines issued by a 3rd party for use under their supervision, they come with monitoring software.
This isn’t some dystopian issue, and frankly, students should not be using school issued machines for private chats or photo storage, and should absolutely have their search history monitored while using said devices.
Badeendje@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
I already made that clear in my original comment.
Badeendje@lemmy.world 1 week ago
No you did not. You just stated that this was the case. I’m asking why that is/should be acceptable.
Why is it normal to put monitoring software on?
Why does a 3rd party need to monitor it?
What are they monitoring that would be considered acceptable?I honestly ask, because I can’t think of any reason.
Or is this similar to “mass shootings are a fact of life”?
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
No you did not. You just stated that this was the case. I’m asking why that is/should be acceptable.
These are school issued machines, and like all machines issued by a 3rd party for use under their supervision, they come with monitoring software.
Clear as day. Glad we cleared this up.
catloaf@lemm.ee 1 week ago
The article has a pretty convincing argument against it. You should read the whole thing.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
I read the article and it is not in any way convincing.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
Yeah, when i was in school; there were no devices issued to students. We had ‘computer labs’. Ie; a room full of computers for student use. There was always one computer for the teachers to use that had a remote-desktop interface monitoring every screen in the room live. They could always see what you were doing, lockout your keyboard/mouse, blank your display.
This really doesn’t seem any different.
I could understand outrage if students were require to install this on their own hardware; but school issued devices are under the schools monitoring and control. Always have been.
EleventhHour@lemmy.world 1 week ago
These are different because kids take these computers home, and it’s some random working for a 3rd party monitoring what’s going on.
Creepy.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
kids take these computers home
I feel like that is the bigger problem. These aren’t private/personal devices; students shouldn’t be treating them as personal devices. Especially knowing it’s a monitored device.
Properly educating students on the use of these devices is the solution. Not telling schools to turn a blind eye to the use of their own equipment.
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
These are fucking kids. They are still learning what devices do and what their appropriate use is. If they are like me, they have probably already found ways to watch porn, monitor their crush’s computer, read their email, and get into their webcam.
It’s not lack of education.
It’s lack of impulse control.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
I agree that this is no different, and has the same solution: Don’t use the schools computers for things that aren’t for school and you won’t have no problems.
Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Damn right.
Sundial@lemm.ee 1 week ago
These aren’t necessarily the computers you and I grew up on where they had a dedicated computer lab room for use during class time. These are devices they take everywhere with them, even home. Now imagine some creepy school IT administrator decided to peek on the Webcams of kids while they’re on their room?
catloaf@lemm.ee 1 week ago
No need to imagine, it’s linked in the article: cbsnews.com/…/610k-settlement-in-school-webcam-sp…
JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
God the school’s response is so sleazy and unapologetic
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Camera/mic access seems like overreach. PII should be obfuscated and only accessible with an audited workflow that includes an access review.
Modern off the shelf MDM is capable of this.
gwen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
wait schools dont have computer labs anymore??? in ALL my schools and the one im in right now we have them
Sundial@lemm.ee 1 week ago
I honestly don’t know if they do or don’t have. I’d imagine it also varies by region. I just know schools have started giving out laptops to kids to take home if they are needed.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
I understand the difference between a laptop and PC thanks.
Now imagine if, and hear me out, one didn’t bring school hardware home so some “creepy IT administrator” doesn’t have access.
“Save the kids” arguments always fall flat on the face when the solution is as simple as leaving school devices at school.
shalafi@lemmy.world 1 week ago
They have to take it home for homework.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
No, they don’t. I am sure the majority have a computer or smart phone at home, and if not libraries exist for a reason.
SadSadSatellite@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
Yeah it’s a good thing homework doesn’t exist.
Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
Good thing for home computers, smart devices, and libraries eh?
conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Many of the kids affected have no access to another device. The whole reasons schools supply hardware now is because it’s needed to access their educational materials, and it’s massively inequitable to only have students who have money able to develop their skills at home.