He did address this in the video
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Funny, considering in the past he’s gone on big rants about how adblocking is no different from piracy, and is theft.
But then again, its Linux we’re talking about, its not like he has a particularly big issue with theft.
FUBAR@lemm.ee 1 week ago
baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 1 week ago
I think he mentioned it is priacy, but I don’t recall he said it is theft or piracy is inheritly unethical.
He mentioned many time that he pirates stuff, except he would pay for them first.
Kbobabob@lemmy.world 1 week ago
So you have a source? I’ve watched his videos for awhile but I don’t remember hearing this take from him.
TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 1 week ago
No, because that isn’t Linus’s take.
I think he’s referencing a stream once upon a time where Linus discussed the arguments around streaming and it’s impact on creators, from a creator’s perspective .
But because he uttered something in favor of ads on his videos-which is how they got paid-he’s now considered ultra pro invasive ads by the user above, who professes to not actually watching Linus
Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 week ago
No, it was most definitely Linus’s take. Louis Rossman covered this a couple of years ago. Direct Linus quote from that Twitter thread:
Ad blocking is the exact same thing as piracy. Literally the exact same thing.
Linus himself covers those Twitter comments, and defends them further, in this video.
tb_@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I really don’t get the hate he got for that take.
Circumventing the method of payment could be argued as being a form of piracy. From that point of view, adblock is piracy.
Like them or not, YouTube is not a charity and requires the serving of ads to continue funding the service. You could argue about how they go about it, but it’s a fact they need some sort of income to continue to exist.
Same goes for YouTubers. They get a percentage of that ad revenue. And they also need some form of income.But just because he said so doesn’t mean he doesn’t understand why adblock is used. He didn’t say “don’t use adblock.” He’s shown how to use adblock before and since. He’s also mentioned that buying something from their webshop gives them a lot more money than turning off adblock.
Saying “watching movies for free is pirating” isn’t the same as saying “you shouldn’t pirate movies”.
Using adblock isn’t engaging with YouTube on YouTube’s terms.stephen01king@lemmy.zip 1 week ago
And yet he never said not to adblock, so the only thing he claims are the categorization of adblocking.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 week ago
It was in one of his streams with Luke. I dont remember the exact one, I’m sorry.
majestictechie@lemmy.fosshost.com 1 week ago
It was on an episode of the WAN show a while back (I don’t know which, I stopped watching a while ago). He said if you’re not paying for the service or watching the Ads, it’s the same as Piracy because your not paying what’s owed.
futatorius@lemm.ee 1 week ago
If some hawker comes up to me and pushes a bunch of flowers in my face while I’m out walking, I’m not obligated to pay for smelling them. And if they’re sufficiently aggressive, they’re committing assault.
PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 1 week ago
Which is incorrect, because Google itself went like 15 years without showing any ads at all to like 5% of their users.
SendMeHappyThings@reddthat.com 1 week ago
I watched this video before it was taken down. At the start of the YouTube section he says something along the lines of “I think ad block is theft, but you’re going to do it, so I have a responsibility to make sure you do it safely.”
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 week ago
My ass he cares if you do it safely.
His hypocrisy is 100% rooted in trying to pull views from the current controversy. Which I have no problem with, thats what youtubers do. They try to ride every wave and pull viewers from it.
I just take issue with the smug hypocrisy.
hanabatake@lemmy.ml 1 week ago
He talks about it in this video (the video this thread is about)
Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de 1 week ago
It’s a little bit more nuanced than that. Yes you’re denying ad revenue but it’s not a bad thing.
futatorius@lemm.ee 1 week ago
They are being paid by third parties to shove something in your face that you didn’t come to see in the first place. They’re not entitled to earn a cent from that, regardless of what bait they choose to place in the trap.
Who elected them and who consented to this manipulative, intrusive arrangement?
Aceticon@lemmy.world 1 week ago
“These are my Principles and if you don’t like them, I have others”
JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
Linus didn’t say piracy is theft to my knowledge. He pirates a bunch of games.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 week ago
I don’t understand why people are all pro-piracy but then get offended when someone accuses them of piracy…
He never went on any “big rants”. He’s mentioned it a few times, and he’s right. You’re bypassing payment (in the form of watching ads) to watch the video. LTT doesn’t really care because AdSense only makes up a small portion of their income, which is why he’s shown many different times, many different ways to block/bypass advertising. I could make an argument about how he’s “pulling up the ladder behind him” but I digress.
Regardless “piracy” is a fairly convoluted term with no concrete definition and it’s a dumb argument for anyone to have.
piccolo@ani.social 1 week ago
Its not piracy though… its the same as if you recorded television and then… skip over the ads. TiVo was doing that 25 years ago.
redisdead@lemmy.world 1 week ago
We all fucking know what ‘piracy’ means in terms of software piracy and copyright infringement.
People like you are just being pedantic for the sake of derailing the argument.
Just admit you are a fucking leech and move on.
piccolo@ani.social 1 week ago
Except you do not know what fopyright infringement is. One must be depriving the owner their rights, such as distributing copyright material. The real loser here is youtube. By not watching ads, your costing then bandwidth and violates their ToS. But their a multi billion dollar tech giant that has no quams about fucking society over. So fuckem.
GaMEChld@lemmy.world 1 week ago
This is correct, he both explained how ad blocking hurts creators, and how ultimately he doesn’t mind because purchasing merch is way more beneficial to them then the adsense money.
All he was doing is do what you want to do but don’t pretend your actions don’t impact other people. Do it with open eyes if you’re going to do it.
AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 1 week ago
To be clear, blocking ads isn’t directly denying anyone money. YouTube decides how video creators are paid and they choose to not pay if ads are blocked. You can agree or disagree with that decision, but the user has no role in it.
Woovie@lemmy.world 1 week ago
helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 week ago
So…this is YouTube’s fault because they chose not to be a charity? LOL that’s some gold-winning mental gymnastics right there.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 week ago
By this argument going to the bathroom during a commercial break is piracy.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 week ago
Only you didn’t go to the bathroom. The ad just never appeared.
I think it very clearly is.
Whether it is piracy or not has nothing to do with blame or responsibility. You’re still just taking personal offense to being called a pirate and conjuring up nonsense arguments to combat it.
redisdead@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Actually I have a track record of 100% getting up to do stuff when ads happen
Like what are you even doing in your life bro?
tb_@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Did Linus blame anyone though?
No. He simply stated a fact.
berengal@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Yeah, him calling it piracy or not doesn’t matter, it’s just a stupid semantic argument that doesn’t matter at all to his overall point. And while I think it’s a stupid take of him, it’s also the reason people are still bringing up his opinion on the matter, so good job of him spreading his message I guess?
futatorius@lemm.ee 1 week ago
If they want payment, they can require registration, agreement to payment and authentication. Nothing’s stopping them. If they put something on the open web and try to monetize it, nobody owes them a living. If I put a display in a shop window, and include wording that says that looking at the display means you’re obligated to also hear a sales pitch, everyone will rightly tell me to fuck off.
Choosing not to load potential spyware, malware and bloatware while looking at free content is no more piracy than is crossing the street while shopping to avoid a tout.
helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 week ago
It is not free content. You’re just spreading disinformation. Just like the movies you download when pirating are not free content. The payment is watching ads. You’re utilizing software to forego that payment (just like piracy).