FWIW, I think the memes do the character too much credit. Not that he’s badly written; far from it. Rather, he’s a shit warrior who pretends his political ambitions are honorable. Without going into spoilers, there’s a little dialog scene late in DS9 that lays out how the Klingon Empire is not living up to its own values, people like Gowron are the reason, and Gowron himself needs to be gutted yesterday.
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Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks agoI keep seeing this guy pop up in memes.
I’ve never seen Star Trek, but like… he makes me want to give it a go
frezik@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Drewfro66@lemmygrad.ml 3 weeks ago
My biggest complaint with how the Gowron character was written was his final battle with Worf. He fought honorably with a Bat’leth. From everything we’ve seen about Gowron earlier in his presentation, he should have fought dirty, and with knives.
wurstgulasch3000@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
If you do, start with TNG
frezik@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Hell, skip the first two seasons. If someone offered me $1M and I could never watch the first two seasons of TNG ever again, I’d take it without hesitation.
No, not even Measure of a Man. It’s legally and philosophically nonsense.
zaphodb2002@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Really? You’re entitled to your opinion, of course, but imo Measure of a Man is an incredible acting showcase and a strong premise to display Federation values. Every time I’ve wanted to get someone into TNG, it’s one of my first recommendations and it usually works. What are your complaints about it?
frezik@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Legal Eagle covers the legal issues with it:
youtu.be/XVjeYW6S8Mo?si=qdE-MT3S3LSbEfxw
The whole trial probably should never have happened. Star Fleet implicitly accepted Data’s self determination by accepting his application to the Academy. Plus, if Maddox thought positronic nets weren’t a giant leap in artificial consciousness, why would he be so interested in Data at all?
The legal issues overlap with some of the philosophical issues. There’s a long history of investigation into intelligence and consciousness, and none of it is on display in the episode. It’s not even a very good introduction to the topic.
This is rather important to today’s issues with AI. While I think current AI tech is vastly overhyped, some of the popular arguments against it are just bad.
tamal3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wait wait wait, deep space 9 all the way! Rewatching now. Still amazing.
fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
Is there a recommended viewing guide somewhere?
Schmoo@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
www.letswatchstartrek.com/tng-episode-guide/
fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
I am off to sail the seas, it’s a [space] pirate’s life for me!