CainTheLongshot
@CainTheLongshot@lemmy.world
- Comment on YSK: Denazification in West Germany was lenient and ultimately abandoned, with many Nazis remaining in positions of power. 2 weeks ago:
I never said Iraq should be the template, I implicitly said Post-WW2 recovery should be. I was referring to Iraq as an example of what not to do, because it was specifically called out for a purge of Nazi officials at every level, which is exactly what happened in Iraq.
As for German resistance, yes of course there were forces outside of government, and they used insiders for information. To believe anything otherwise is just being willfully ignorant, and a waste of time.
- Comment on YSK: Denazification in West Germany was lenient and ultimately abandoned, with many Nazis remaining in positions of power. 2 weeks ago:
Unfortunately to your second point, I don’t think that’s the best approach either. Check out the first 6-12 months of the Iraqi government rebuild during the Iraq war. The Americans basically fired 20,000 Iraqi officials and military members who then had nothing to lose anymore. They then immediately started an insurgency.
Also after these fascist take overs, it’s not as easy as simply saying “you’re a Nazi, therefore you go to jail” because if you didn’t swear fealty to the new government (i.e. if you were Democrat you would now have to call yourself Republican) you could be summarily executed on the spot (check out the video of Sadam’s take over).
So you could resign. But then you get called a coward by armchair generals for not trying to stay in the system and slow it down as much as possible.
So you stay in and keep your head down, and may try to slow the processes down enough to hopefully save some innocents without getting pulled out back and shot. But then you’re called a Nazi collaborator. Idk, I would probably just as well resign, but that could put a target on your back, too, because you’re basically outing yourself as hostile.
Personally, i think how we handled it after WW2 wasn’t perfect, but should be the goal. There’s always clean up that can happen even years afterwards. But if you go purging an entire country’s worth of government officials, you have to replace those you purged with equally qualified people. And you often find that those who are eager to step in, are often just eager to enact revenge, or in some cases, even worse than their predecessors because they are just opportunists who now have the good graces of the new regime who just wanted a quick transition to a friendly government.
- Comment on Did we win? 3 weeks ago:
Something about the smartest bears vs the dumbest humans.
- Comment on How possibly? 3 weeks ago:
God damn, it’s this shit right here that I’ve been calling out to my leftists circles whenever the topic of some messaging semantics change comes up. It doesn’t matter what terminology we agree on, bad faith actors from far-right think tanks will churn out BS and blast it on Fox news 24/7 until we sit down again and come up with new terminology because this new one isn’t reaching people like we intended it to reach. It’s a tactic to keep us from actually discussing ways to fix the problems, by instead focusing on those semantics and labels we affix to them.
- Comment on Every time I open the news 5 weeks ago:
I still can’t get over the fact that one of the actors here played Columbo, and the other was in Austin Powers Goldmember. Wow, such talent!
- Comment on Trans people in Kansas are being ordered to surrender their drivers licenses 1 month ago:
And even if they did, it would take months, if not years, to resolve. Until then people will either be disenfranchised and can’t vote or forced to update their ID’s, which could also take months of paperwork to resolve.
- Comment on Oh, good: Discord's age verification rollout has ties to Palantir co-founder and panopticon architect Peter Thiel 1 month ago:
Some folks would say half of America had always been either Nazis or Nazi sympathizers. But we just call those later groups, Nazis.