Don't expect iPhone apps to get cheaper now that you can pay for them outside of the App Store

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• LWD@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is bizarre. If you are a developer, what right does Apple have to seeing your finances for all purchases made in the app that they sold on their store?.

  This sounds like a lose-lose for developers. Either you submit to Apple’s walled garden padded cell of an ecosystem and give them money, or you have to find a different payment system and give Apple a cut anyway, which might end up costing you even more in the long run.

  This seems even more anti-competitive than before!

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  • kirklennon@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you are a developer, what right does Apple have to seeing your finances for all purchases made in the app that they sold on their store?

    It's a commission for sales that came from the app, meaning from Apple's platform, where they have roughly one billion above-average income users with a reputation for buying apps and subscriptions.

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    • pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      XCode is also a steaming pile of shit. For example, it took them literal years to get syntax highlighting stable for Swift. You’d just be typing and poof, all the text would turn black.

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    • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve definitely noticed that basic tools on iOS and Mac OS tend to cost money compared to their Android / Windows / Linux counterparts. But still, just because they can, doesn’t mean they should… Or at least, that they should be legally allowed to.

      I won’t shed any tears for Amazon etc having to give Apple a huge chunk of cash, but this sounds like a way to frustrate small developers who don’t have a whole team to devote to their finances.

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    • MonkderZweite@feddit.ch ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s a commission for sales that came from the app

      Now where are Apple’s detailed sales reports, poving that this isn’t paid with the device?

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• MiDaBa@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This article seems like Apple had to sign off on it before it was published. Having multiple stores from which to choose will certainly lead to lower prices. The best example of this is gaming. Closed systems of digital purchases like Xbox or Nintendo Switch and stores almost always have higher prices than the exact same game on PC. Of course on PC I can buy from the ubiquitous Steam, the Microsoft store, Epic, GOG, UBI, EA, itch.io and others. If PC were like an iPhone I would only be able to buy from Microsoft and MS could demand a cut of every game sold outside of their walled garden.

  The fact this writer claims developers would be nothing without Apple is laughable. If Apple closed up shop tomorrow we’d still want and use apps. Apple is not the reason we use apps, they are only a platform that can run the apps we already use.

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  • otp@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    UBI

    Y’all have Universal Basic Income on PC?

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  • psud@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They mean the handset price will go up, since Apple will no longer be able to suck as much app store money from you

    Though I don’t expect many people to take advantage of their new freedom - look at the number of Android users who have ever side loaded apps, or used a store which didn’t come with their phone

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• Eggyhead@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Businesses don't make themselves cheaper for consumers even if they get a chance to cut their overhead. I just don't see businesses ever do that. Profits "rise" and they circle-jerk about how great they're doing.

  I'm more interested in getting access to FOSS, indie apps, and apps that Apple is too afraid to be associated with, such as emulators and adult content aggregators.

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  • cooopsspace@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The whole point of this exercise was that a bigger cut of the app revenue goes to the developers though.

    You know, since the phone manufacturer and payment provider actually doesn’t do any of the development work on the app…

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    • maxFapper@lemmynsfw.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, but they do gate keep what can/can’t be installed on their phone quite aggressively.

      That’s why there isn’t a single torrent client for iOS, for example.

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• diffusive@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This article is totally not sponsored by Apple 🙄🙄🙄

  So many BS points

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• helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You might not like the 27% cut, but that’s only fair, and I explaind this time and again about Apple apps and services. Like iMessage, the App Store is a proprietary Apple technology.

  Yes, it’s a storefront that makes apps available on iPhones. And the iPhone would be worthless without them. But the apps themselves and the revenue streams they generate for developers would not exist without the iPhone, iOS, the infrastructure that supports them, and the years of development Apple has put in. All of that cost money to make, and Apple is now just capitalizing on all that.

  Anyone in Apple’s place would do the same thing. And indeed, other marketplaces have similar commissions.

  WTF kinda bullshit is this? If there was literally any other way to install an app I would agree, but there’s not.

  Yes, it costs money to run the app store. Probably about 1% of that 27% would cover it.

  Yes, it costs money to build iphones and iOS, but Apple is not a charity. They don’t hand them out at the mall. They charge exorbitant prices for them.

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  • squid_slime@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The literal creation of the problem and making of a solution. I bought my PC, I install applications on my PC, I do not pay MSI, AMD, intel, nvidia, corsair, Linux, ms windows money after the fact. Same goes for android when side loading, its all a silly excuse to cover they’re greed

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  • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, I don’t understand “they must take 27%, after all, the app store is proprietary!”

    Apple is being forced by Europe to let people use something other than the App Store. This is proof that the App Store is not needed for purchases. Apple is selling the overpriced solution to a problem they refuse to let you subvert.

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• wrekone@lemmyf.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What a bootlicker.

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• praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Fdroid FTW

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• TIMMAY@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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  • TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There is no free lunch. Even if you aren’t paying for apps, you are still paying for them. Even FOSS apps, your share is just being paid for by the kindness of the developers or other community members who donate to fund development.

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    • TIMMAY@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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• magnetosphere@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Don’t worry, I didn’t.

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