If Eternalism is real (the theory of past, present, and future existing simultaneously) then time travel is going to a WHERE more than going to a WHEN.

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• kjPhfeYsEkWyhoxaxjGgRfnj@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Hmmm, wondering if Eternalism is even a necessary component here.

  If we take spacetime as a 4 dimensional continuum, then I would just reword this as: “when” is just a specific version of “where” that refers to the time dimension.

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  • Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Relatively literally means that the difference between when and where depends on your reference frame.

    Inside black holes time becomes space, the reason it’s impossible to avoid falling to the singularity once inside is the same reason it’s impossible to avoid tomorrow.

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• neptune@dmv.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Really, any interpretation of time as a dimension already kind of has this baked in. Where and when aren’t drastically different if time and space are both physical dimensions.

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• originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  theres a book.. i think its called Timescape that demonstrates this concept.

  in the book they send a tachyon stream to the point is space where the earth was in an attempt to let them know of impending doom.

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  • rscky1@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just read the Wiki on that book…I figured my showerthought would be a parallel thought with others since some of the Youtube videos allude to coordinates in Spacetime but I haven’t heard anyone phrase it exactly that way. Thanks for that link!

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    • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      i read that book as a kid, and so every single time travel movie has me infuriated that they end up in the same contextual geospatial coordinates on the planet instead of far out in space somewhere

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• Zrybew@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Would that mean we have no free will, and our lives and destiny is already predetermined?

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  • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Basically, yeah. I can’t think of a reason free will would actually exist given what we currently know about the universe. It’s all just math, and we run on the same math as the rest of the universe. All we are are complex chemical reactions. There’s just no reason to think there’s anything that makes us special.

    That said, our understanding of the universe is decidedly incomplete.

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• IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m having a hard time reconciling this with entropy.

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  • ivanafterall@kbin.social ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That's because you need to factor in the power of love.

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• inlandempire@jlai.lu ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There’s a french bande dessinée where time (and space) travel as a concept is explored through the idea of concentric circles and an ouroboros ring as the artifact used. Following one ring clockwise makes you go in the future, counter clockwise in the past, going in a horizontal like moves you through space but at the same time, and the rest you can imagine

  It’s from Thorgal 15th issue, by Van Hamme and Rosinski

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• DarylDutch@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Anyway to cut a long story short dad. That is why it doesn’t matter that I took a 3 hour shower.

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• gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The concepts of when and where are relativistic terms, and I think, trying to split hairs between them is kind of pointless. What’s important is that your interlocutors know what you’re referring to. 

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• Pratai@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The theory of time travel has always been about both.

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