The mail service has to be affordable (around 10 euros per year). Tuta was an option but their plans are somewhat overpriced for me.
I prefer tuta over proton, but both are good
What are some good private email service?
Submitted 11 months ago by cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de to privacyguides@lemmy.one
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oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 11 months ago
governorkeagan@lemdro.id 11 months ago
I’ve not used Tuta but currently use Proton. What do you prefer from Tuta over Proton? Genuinely curious.
oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 11 months ago
Tuta has a linux desktop app, and their android app is on fdroid and doesn’t depend on google play services. Plus they use green energy for their servers
I was tired of proton because their linux vpn app is pretty awful, especially if you use iwd instead of networkmanager live me. Plus they don’t even support ipv6. So I was switching to mullvad vpn (which has great linux support and ipv6), and then for the price of just email tuta was cheaper and better on all the things I mentioned without any downsides (to me), so I switched.
frogmint@beehaw.org 11 months ago
I like having email separate from my VPN provider to avoid putting all my eggs in one basket
adespoton@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
It’s sad to me that the answer can’t be “the one you run yourself.”
There’s theoretically no reason why everyone couldn’t run their own mail service who had a domain name. But with spam practices being what they are, self-hosted mail will get binned in most places.
LWD@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Self hosted mail is… not ideal for user privacy. First, you need to choose a provider that stores your data and probably requires your identity, or expose your IP address. Next, you need to figure out who will give you a vanity domain for these emails, and either give your identity to them or risk losing the domain. Then you need to be a Linux security expert. Then you need to hand out your vanity email address on your vanity domain, which sticks out like a sore thumb.
eek2121@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You can, but it is difficult. Spam prevention has made life hard for those that want to host email.
Saki@monero.town 11 months ago
- Tuta (free): you can send only like 6 email per day. Otherwise, Tor-friendly. No onion. Support forum on Reddit 😞 Germany.
- Posteo.de: 1 €/mo affordable. Nothing fancy. Support via PGP like that’s common sense. Germany. Non-crypto anonymous payments w/ various options (e.g. a prepaid CC): they don’t even ask your name (much less address, cell phone number).
- Disroot.org: Free, pop/smtp, community-based, trusted even by the Tails team. w/ onion. Netherlands.
- Cock.li: Free, pop/smtp etc. Very Tor-friendly w/ fast onion. It’s good if you think it like disposal. Irresponsible in a way (aka Freedom), but actually 10-year-old & stable. Romania.
- Proton (free): bloated, very mixed opinions, yet better than Google. w/ onion (slow). Switzerland. A simple feature like Plain Text view is missing (HTML by default: not serious about privacy).
Saki@monero.town 11 months ago
Don’t worry about e2ee: Even if you get the most expensive plan from e.g. Proton, it’s not e2ee unless both parties use Proton. There is a free, “easy” way to realize true e2e: OpenPGP in Thunderbird (convenient), GnuPGP (more secure), etc.
As for mailbox.org: I used it before but it showed Google reCaptcha, which was an obvious red flag:
cf. [Security and GDPR Issue] ProtonMail includes Google Recaptcha for Login, every single time. #242Also, technical score of mailbox.org has been relatively low, not improving: internet.nl/mail/mailbox.org/1080449/ (Don’t worry too much about this score, though. It’s only technical; human factors (philosophies, trust, etc.) are more important when it comes to privacy.) This is not a recommendation. DYOR; ultimately, believe your own intuition.
wincing_nucleus073@lemm.ee 11 months ago
proton has their own in-house captcha system now :)
DangerousInternet@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I am long time Disroot user, but sometimes I need to send from different domain, I use Murena.io and Evilmail.to, any thoughts about both?
Saki@monero.town 11 months ago
Not a recommendation but I too trust Disroot pretty much. You can get a custom domain there without “buying a paid plan” once you make a donation. Would that be an option for you?
Using multiple providers (having multiple accounts) is a good idea, though. Don’t put all the eggs in one basket. I’ve never heard the two providers you mentioned, so I can’t tell. If you can sign up anonymously via Tor, if they’re Google-free + not behind CF, and (most importantly) they feel “good” (subjective but gut feeling…), I think they’re usable.
If their support use PGP, that’s a good sign too. (Proton even don’t share its pub key iirc.) If they also accept the privacy coin like Disroot and Tuta do, that’s nice too. Ultimately, though, believe your gut feeling, because everyone has different priorities, different thread models, etc.
iqwertyasdf@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Highly recommend protonmail which also has a free tier.
war@kbin.social 11 months ago
Both Tuta and Proton have free plans that cost zero euros per year!
HamSwagwich@showeq.com 11 months ago
Fastmail
Cinner@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’ll throw in protonmail and skiff.
mattreb@feddit.it 11 months ago
The main downside of Tuta free for me is that you can’t create filters for free. The main downside of proton free is that you can’t remove their signature…
Illecors@lemmy.cafe 11 months ago
What kind of privacy are you after?
retro@infosec.pub 11 months ago
SimplyMail + OpenPGP
Kodachrome@kbin.social 11 months ago
Your boundaries on cost make it tough, but aside from Tuta you might have a look at mail.ee which has very basic features (no E2EE for example) and a retro web UI, but very high storage limits. They offer free accounts too, and support SMTP/IMAP/POP3. It's Latvian-based so comes with the "100% GDPR compliance" feature if that's of interest.
Zoho.com is another that comes to mind. It's very feature-heavy/slick (you can tell they're attempting to market mainly to small businesses looking for a cheaper Google Workspace), has been around a long time and I've read positive comments from others about the service. It's an Indian company though so you don't get GDPR protections (or similar) as far as I know. The low-end plans are in your price range and I think they still offer a free plan - that's what I have anyway.
I've been a Fastmail customer for decades now and it's exactly what I want a mail service to be, but it's out of your price range and has no free tier.
Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
I have two (paid) Mailbox.org accounts running for the last several years. No problem at all and they include several features that I use on a regular basis like email aliases (not just a + email, but unique emails), disposable email, contacts and calendar that I can easily sync to my phone, etc.
One uses a custom domain name and the other is just a mailbox.org address.