At Meta, millions of underage users were an 'open secret,' show court filing

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• RQG@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I wish there were actual consequences that matter for this type of appalling greedy behavior.

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  • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s how you know we’re all living in oligarchies masquerading as democracies. I mean, the rich and powerful in “democracies” get away with literal mass murder and ecocide, and the worst they face from the state 99% of the time is a slap on the wrist that’s 1/1000th the profit of their crimes.

    The only time oligarchs fall is if they fuck with other oligarchs, or to protect other oligarchs. How many hundreds/thousands of pedo’s were ignored with Epstein and Maxwell taking the fall?

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    • Maeve@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Kleptocracies. That’s the word.

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• jasondj@ttrpg.network ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m not trying to imply that Meta isn’t in the wrong here…but for real, where are the parents?

  Like…we’re nearly at the point now where parents of kids under 13 really can’t claim ignorance. My kid is in elementary school and I was chatting with other parents at the bus stop the other day as to how amazing it is that Pokemon is still around and reminiscing of Pogs and Slammers.

  I had AIM and ICQ and IRC in middle school. Phpbb2 and vBulletin in high school. Livejournal, MySpace, and Facebook came shortly after. Hell, my reddit account is old enough to drive, let alone sign up for Facebook.

  Parents of preteens today, IMO, have to hold at least some of the blame. We are first-generation internet immigrants, and our kids are native-born.

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  • sneezymrmilo@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I share this sentiment and whole heartedly agree. Parents of the current generation need to take steps to make sure their kids are browsing safely and understand the consequences if they don’t. Also this comment makes me feel old lol.

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• uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Okay there’s a story to all of this. In 1983 when Ronald Reagan saw Wargames he was so terrified he readily signed the CFAA which made it super illegal (like 25 years in prison – same as murder one in some states) to do hacker stuff.

  Until, very recently, hacker stuff banned by the CFAA included violating the TOS of websites and social media platforms.

  So if you lied about your age to make a Snapchat account, you could be in serious trouble… if a prosecutor wanted to ruin the life of a ten-year-old girl. Most prosecutors don’t want to ruin the lives of ten -year-old girls.

  In fact, we Americans typically commit three felonies a day, a large number of which are violations of the CFAA. They’re convenient if you’re an enemy of the state, or some official has interest in your land or your spouse, or disposing of your population demographic.

  Recently a judge admitted no-one reads TOS disclosures anyway, and disobeying one shouldn’t count as a crime. At the same time, if you’re a hactivist or a whistle-blower you can expect no mercy from the courts. Better to flee to Russia.

  That said, there was no way Zuckerberg was going to snitch on kids who wanted to social media about on his turf, and it’s not his fault they’re disclosing all their vitals while pretending to be a grown up.

  The moral of the story is when laws serve scared presidents and big corporations instead of the public, the internet routes around it like damage, and kids get caught up in the mix.

  Since we won’t even give our kids medical care and school lunches, I say the US and states care less about children as they do the bad look when children get visibly hurt or killed, so the mess is way bigger than the CFAA and kids in the darkweb.

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  • mob@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That was a fun read with some interesting facts I never knew… But I think you put some weird spins into it.

    Like I don’t think Americans are commiting 3 felonies a day, and I’d really be curious about the explanation of that.

    And I dont think lying about your age is applicable to the CFAA without some wild lawyering to consider it impersonating someone else to gain unauthorized access to gain data.

    But maybe I suck at understanding legal writing

    www.justice.gov/jm/jm-9-48000-computer-fraud

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    • uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      My source is a lot of reading on Techdirt, and their source is the explanation in Three Felonies A Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent by Harvey Silverglate, but please, if you have doubts, I encourage you to dive deep.

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  • NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    […blah…blah…] so the mess is way bigger than the CFAA and kids roaming the darkweb.

    That may be, but still your kids need protection from toxic social media.

    Real, functioning protection. Terms of service don’t achieve that. Laws don’t achieve that either.

    If all of Facebook is toxic, then no kids should ever be able to get there.

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• NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yawn - everyone knew it, so why shouldn’t they know it.

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• Zak@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  An internal company chart… showed how Meta tracked the percentage of 11- and 12-year-olds who used Instagram daily

  Well that’s damning and ought to lead to penalties. On the other hand,

  “complaints from the girl’s mother stating her daughter was 12”… Meta representatives “couldn’t tell for sure the user was underage”

  People make false reports about social media content and accounts all the time. I could mail the admins of sopuli.xyz and tell them that I’m @misk@sopuli.xyz’s mother and they’re too young to be using Lemmy. Said admins should ignore me like the crazy person I am unless I can prove it.

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  • misk@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I could mail the admins of sopuli.xyz and tell them that I’m @misk@sopuli.xyz’s mother and they’re too young to be using Lemmy. Said admins should ignore me like the crazy person I am unless I can prove it.

    When in doubt, the default should be as asking for proof. You can’t sell someone alcohol just because it’s hard to check for ID.

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    • Zak@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That gives us a world where people can’t use social media anonymously, which has problematic implications for privacy and free expression for those whose governments do not guarantee that right.

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    • BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      In a physical business yes but in the internet anyone can fake anything.

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• moistclump@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What’s the proposed consequence in the court ruling?

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  • affiliate@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    a warning that they better stop or else they may receive a strongly worded letter

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    • militaryintelligence@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      3 of those and they may receive a citation

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• Engywuck@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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