Submitted 11 months ago by sanqueue@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
What’s the big deal? Google already do this to Android AND they also host Hackathons where they invite people to do this and reward those who do.
Plus they have an ongoing bug bounty program so at anytime you can submit a bug/hack and get paid.
Apple don’t have a history of doing this at all. This is literally the first time they are doing it because of the bad PR from Pegasus.
It shouldn’t be applauded. They should be roasted for not having done this sooner
I haven’t heard about google testing hardware based attacks on their chips, which I suppose could be caused by android running on a wide variety of chips instead of a few home-developed ones. Next to that Apple has had a bug bounty program for ages, that pays well and covers a wide range of attacks. Not hosting open hackathons has perhaps something to do with public brand image, but Apple shouldn’t be discredited regarding rewarding the findings of bugs and exploits.
Not sure about their own chips but definitely hack the daylights out of Android.
Apple has a bounty program but it doesn’t work. I’ve read multiple stories over the years of Devs who submitted show stopping bugs and never got anything back from Apple. And they take MONTHS to release a fix.
The Google Security Team found a massive hole in iOS, reported it to Apple, and after months of waiting with no feedback or fix released, they published it openly. Only THEN did Apple suddenly acknowledge it and released a fix.
Apple are the biggest hypocrites. They claim to be private and not collect data but literally everything you do on your phone they can see and collect. Everything in iCloud is on their servers. All your browsing history they can see in Safari.
The only difference between them and Google is that they claim not to sell the data. But as we know Edward Snowden told us that the CIA/FBI etc have full access to all the servers of the Big Tech companies under the Patriot Act. They can decrypt and see your data anytime.
So in other words not really private. None of them are.
Isn’t this just pentesting?
But is also marketing.
Definitely applauding them on going hard and testing their stuff.
I’m thinking of how Sony and Nintendo had piracy issues that completely ruined their hardware sales. Then again, they can kinda get away with it in the short run by continuing to release quality software.
Apple doesn’t have that luxury as they’ve cemented themselves as making quality hardware. If that gets crippled, they’re fucked.
Are there numbers showing any meaningful harm to Sony or Nintendo?
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 11 months ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Using a vast array of technology including lasers are finely tuned sensors, they are trying to find gaps in their security and patch them up before they even arrive in the world.
The actual chip doing the encryption can show signs of what it is doing: while processors might seem like abstract electronics, they throw out all sorts of heats and signals that could be useful to an attacker.
But they are up against highly compensated hackers: in recent years, there has grown up to be an advanced set of companies offering cyber weapons to the highest bidder, primarily for use against people working to better the world: human rights activists, journalists, diplomats.
But recent years have also seen it locked in an escalating battle: Lockdown Mode might have been a breakthrough of which it is proud, but it was only needed because of an unfortunate campaign to break into people’s phones.
It is not the kind of difficulty that comes even with other security work; those stealing passwords or scamming people out of money don’t have lobbyists and government power.
The kind of highly targeted, advanced attacks that Lockdown Mode and other features guard against however are costly and complicated, meaning they will often be done by governments that could cause difficulties for Apple and other technology companies.
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danhab99@programming.dev 11 months ago
Downvote me if you must but what if Apple accidentally became the Privacy community’s greatest ally? I know it can’t happen bc they’ll always keep a back door for their data mining
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Hell, if they legitimately stopped their data collection, that would be enough to tip me into iOS until a truly good linux phone in my price range happens.
Vub@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m curious, do you have a source for them having a backdoor and mining data?