Will Lemmy soon drive Innovation in the Fediverse?

Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨blue_berry@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨fediverse@lemmy.world⁩

Currently lemmy is like the speedboat next to the heavy steam boat of Mastodon etc. While lemmy is still dynamic and flexible and can introduce new features easily without scaring off its established user base, mastodon can not do such experiments so easily. Now, if lemmy gains more momentum in the fediverse and establishes features, which other services don’t have, it could really push innovation in the Fediverse further. What do you think?

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Dave@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Lemmy does not have basic features, to the point that one of the big instances is considering moving off lemmy.

I think we have a lot more following to do before we can lead with new features.

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- dandroid@dandroid.app ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Which instance, and which features do they feel are missing?
  
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  - Dave@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    You’ve had answers from others but basically moderation tools are non-existent. When you report something, there’s no way to pick to send to admins or community moderators, so if there’s an issue with a community the moderators can just resolve reports before the admins see them.
    
    There is no site-wide moderator role, so if you want someone able to take action when CSAM (etc) is posted on a remote community you have to make them admin and also give them access to approve accounts or change the name of the website, etc.
    
    The only actions available are to temporarily or permanently ban a user. You can’t restrict new users from posting 100 posts in the first 10 mins or anything like that.
    
    There is not even a way to report a user. If someone makes an account on one instance and starts spamming on a different one, there is no way to report it to the user’s instance admins. The user’s instance admins are the only ones that can ban a spammer in a way that federates to other instances, so if you can’t report it to them then each of the 1000+ instances needs to each ban them. (in reality, admins will normally message each other or post in a spam matrix channel, but the simple option to report a user should exist)
    
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  - Xepher@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Beehaw. And effective moderation tools.
    
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  - Wander@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Not that instance, but Lemmy is missing a lot of moderation and federation tools. Right now you only have sledgehammers to deal with tiny nails, in regards to tooling.
    
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Chickenstalker@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Lemmy is under constant attack by unknown malicious entities. However, all that is doing is accelerating Lemmy’s evolution. What does not kill you, makes you stronger.

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- IvanOverdrive@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Who do you this these malicious entities are? My guess is Elon and Spez.
  
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  - kryllic@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Scriptkiddies
    
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  - AlexDrago@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    My guess would be the suck and spez
    
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scytale@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
It will if/when the userbase grows significantly. Look at the explosion of mobile apps the past few months. However, it ultimately depends on the lemmy devs, and how much time/effort they are willing to spend ti drive innovation. The unfortunate reality is that commercialization and competition also drive innovation, and the fediverse is largely driven by passion and effort by people who have the capacity to do it without the expectation of financial gain.

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onlinepersona@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Not necessarily lemmy, but the fediverse will drive innovation in social media.

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art@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
It’s weird that everyone keeps looking at this thru the eyes of capitalism. We don’t need neck-break-speed feature updates, we don’t need to appease our shareholders. If one platform grows on the Fediverse the others don’t get “left in the dust”.

We’re not in competition, we are a community.

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MargotRobbie@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I see the fediverse as the next big evolution of social media (a return back to social networking again), and considering I wasn’t not really that big into social media before, and I like talking to people more than talking at people, so I want to gamble on being an early adopter here and see if it pays off.

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