FCC closing loophole that gave robocallers easy access to US phone numbers

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• be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I swear to god I've heard that the telemarketer/robocaller problem is finally solved like ten times over the course of my life.

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  • Cheesus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You build a 10 foot high wall, they will build an 11 foot ladder. Stir/shaken was good for like 6 months before spam callers were able to bypass that security measure.

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    • Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      If only the phone system in the US, like the rest of the world, had robust authentication. It’s all a bit jacked together, like the solution.

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    • stealthnerd@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      STIR/SHAKEN had yet to be fully implemented, so while most carriers are now signing calls, almost none are taking action against unsigned calls.

      I have hope that it will become a useful tool in the future for blocking spam and even bad carriers who are signing anything and everything.

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  • LazaroFilm@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It will be solved when scientists finally release a new revolutionary kind of battery.

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    • chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This one uses semi-litho oscillating iron cores, but essentially amounts to a fancy capacitor with some extra bells and whistles.

      Now this one is the most promising to take on lithium ion. It’s just a giant water wheel. You find a nearby source of swiftly flowing water and it has more battery life than even a nuclear power plant!

      This is just a rock, but our scientists are hopeful it can produce a discharge rate faster than an atomic bomb.

      None are even close to viable, but they will suck up millions in investor money. Invest today! /s

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    • Maeve@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nah, you also have to wait until there are equitable food distribution instead of payments to destroy “surplus.”

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  • uis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It can be solved with robocallers honeypots

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  • BigilusDickilus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The one good thing that W did was the do not call registry, that worked for a while at least.

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    • psud@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Also then became the best phone number list for scammers

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  • Maeve@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Need to figure out a way to go after posters soliciting this kind of coders in the USA on rentacoder sites, but then there’s the poor coders from other countries who will do it for a few cents on the dollar.

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  • Furbag@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah, same. I’ll fuckin’ believe it when I see it. Can’t tell you how many times I have people tell me about the national do-not-call list as if I haven’t been on it already for a decade and scammers and spammers don’t respect it anyway and are unpunished for ignoring it.

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• TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The FCC order will take effect 30 days after it’s published in the Federal Register. A public draft of the order was released ahead of the FCC meeting.

  So bad actors have at least 30 days to pull as much data as they can right now. People who keep their existing phone numbers may very well still be targets of robocalls because a database can be compiled right now, if it hasn’t already happened. And unless you change your number and your new number is a currently unassigned number, you could still be targeted, since the number is in a list of phone numbers; your new number just wouldn’t be listed as assigned to you. So maybe 10-15% of the people who change their phone numbers will be OK?

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  • ares35@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    these new rules have nothing to do with how the bad guys obtain targets' phone numbers, they're about how they get assigned phone numbers.

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    • Patches@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I see you’re new here. Nobody reads the articles

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    • Maeve@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s tangentially related so I can discuss it.

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  • Synnr@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This explains the 4 different “Hey! I got your number at the XX meetup.” and “Hey, let’s go play golf tomorrow!” type texts ove gotten this week. Trying to validate info

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  • HubertManne@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ive been thinking of changing carriers. may just do this after the 30 days and go for a new number.

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    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I just have any calls that aren’t from my contacts forwarded to Google voice using Yet Another Call Blocker.

      gitlab.com/xynngh/YetAnotherCallBlocker

      Besides, I don’t use phone for calls - that all happens with messengers these days (Telegram, etc), so I know you’re a telemarketer anyway.

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• MajorHavoc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The existence in the first place of robo-dialing loopholes is criminal, and we ought to be able to prosecute it as such. I have no doubt that FCC leaders have accepted bribes to make everyone’s phones shittier.

  It would be really nice for everyone if we could get a consistent streak of non-criminals leading the FCC.

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• negativenull@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Giant Mug

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  • JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Remember when like every address in America (including the White House) sent in a letter with the exact same text saying the did not support net neutrality and then when questioned about it the FCC said they were attacked and wiped their servers?

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    • negativenull@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Pepperidge Farm Remembers

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• llama@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Easy access to phone numbers? Did they flash an amnesia light to make them forget how Arabic numerals work? Literally all you have to do is look at a phone book to see what the valid area codes and exchanges are then robodial away.

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  • EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In the article it’s pretty clear they mean US numbers to call from.

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  • datelmd5sum@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Couldn’t we just replace phone numbers with IPv6 addresses? Who the fuck uses a POTS landline these days?

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    • Maeve@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Plenty of people for valid reasons, like people on home dialysis, breathing apparatus etc in a rural area that has problems staying on the grid during large storms or drivers hitting a power pole at the end of the nearest road.

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• thelastknowngod@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m an American living abroad and I use a VoIP service to maintain my US number. It had actually gotten more difficult to do this because of the changes they are making.

  A few weeks ago I needed to submit docs proving I was a legitimate business with US tax id and whatnot… If you don’t have that, you have to provide an alternate number from a traditional phone contract of someone who lives in the US. Unless I were to pay for a phone subscription in America, there is no option for an individual to do this independently. I needed to use a family member’s number.

  My American phone number is very much necessary but I only use it on very rare occasions… Paying something like $30-40 per month for an American phone contract (that I’ll never use) plus the $15-20 per month fee for the voip provider is excessive.

  If they just had an id verification system for American citizens and didn’t tie it to a domestic account holder, that would be something.

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  • iegod@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sounds like it’s working correctly.

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    • thelastknowngod@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It is… For better or worse…

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  • Maeve@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Like my ssn which was stolen in the last decade that I just got back under COVID relief because I couldn’t get it back without stolen copies of prior filings?

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• autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is the best summary I could come up with:

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  In one of its many attempts to curb robocalls, the Federal Communications Commission said it is making it harder for Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) providers to obtain direct access to US telephone numbers.

  Before that, they could only get numbers by making a request through a traditional carrier," FCC Chairwoman Jessica Rosenworcel said in a statement for yesterday’s commission meeting.

  Describing One Owl, the FCC said the company’s efforts “to operate under the cloak of ever-changing corporate formations to serve the same dubious clientele demonstrate willful attempts to circumvent the law to originate and carry illegal traffic.”

  “Right now, it is very easy for bad actors who get caught facilitating illegal robocalls to set up shop under a new name and carry on with business as usual, and these rules will make it harder to do that,” Nicholas Garcia, policy counsel for consumer-advocacy group Public Knowledge, told Ars.

  Garcia noted that “false or fraudulent registration and compliance reports would be an obvious way for the most dedicated bad actors to circumvent these new rules.

  But that itself may provide new avenues for enforcement, and more requirements and friction raise the cost and risks” for VoIP operators that don’t follow the rules.

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• iHUNTcriminals@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Again? This is like 100th time.

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