I love giving specific powers to a specific race within the constitution is anything but racism. Sounds almost like the textbook definition of racism to me but what do i know.
Prime Minister calls for 'respectful' debate after protesters target No campaign event
Submitted 1 year ago by unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone to australia@aussie.zone
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muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Apparently not a lot, considering actual race based powers have been in the constitution since its inception.
Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 1 year ago
The foundation of the Australian colony is predicated on the notion that Indigenous People are not real humans and therefore the land was unoccupied.
muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Most where removed currently there are only 2 sections that mention race that being section 25 and section 51. Section 25 prohibits a state from considering a race prevented from voting as part of their population (this was to encourage states not to discriminate but with our mandatory voting seems kinda irrelevent). Section 51 grants the commonwealth the ability to make laws about specific races. So as of current nothing in the constitution grants a race specifi powers it simply grants the government the ability to govern race.
Nath@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Of which powers do you speak?
There is nothing in the proposal that says the body will have any power whatsoever. It can’t propose bills. It can’t veto bills. All it can do is draw attention to matters that will specifically impact First Nation peoples.
muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Ok so if its powerless then its pointless and a waste of taxpayer money. If its not powerless then its exactly as i said. So which one is it? How is it not racist to have a body as part of government that requires u have a particular race to be a part of.
unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone 1 year ago
I will not remove this comment, however, this argument is tired and has been rejected time and time again. It’s just wrong. In fact I would go so far as to say misinformation.
As has been stated by other users the alteration actually gives no power to Indigenous Australians that they don’t already have:
Chapter IX Recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Peoples
129 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice
In recognition of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples as the First Peoples of Australia:
there shall be a body, to be called the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice; the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice may make representations to the Parliament and the Executive Government of the Commonwealth on matters relating to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples; the Parliament shall, subject to this Constitution, have power to make laws with respect to matters relating to the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice, including its composition, functions, powers and procedures.
I forgot to mention it in the post because Dale wouldn’t have picked up that this article was about the voice but we do have a megathread where this has been brought up before. If it becomes apparent that you are engaging in bad faith there will be further action taken.
muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I dont believe im engaging in bad faith if i am i would be more than happy for you to explain how
Marin_Rider@aussie.zone 1 year ago
is this one of the arguments you got from that pro-putin cooker who is organising ‘NO’ protests?
muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world 1 year ago
No this is the argument that any lines drawn by race are inertly racist. I have no idea who this pro putin cooker is but putin is genociding the Ukrainian people which is also racist.
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 1 year ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has condemned the actions of protesters outside a major No campaign event in Adelaide, calling for a respectful debate.
About 20 protesters gathered outside the Adelaide Convention Centre on Monday night holding signs reading “fight racism” and “no pride in genocide” while chanting “always was, always will be, Aboriginal land”.
South Australian Liberal Senator Alex Antic posted a video to social media platform X (formerly Twitter) which appeared to show him being heckled by the crowd.
At least one person could be heard yelling abusive phrases as Senator Antic walked past, including the word “racist”.
“I’ve never persuaded anyone by calling them names, so it’s crazy stuff, and I certainly don’t think it reflects where the majority of Australians are at in the course of this debate.”
Coalition Senator Jacinta Nampijinpa Price told about 1,000 attendees of the event that Indigenous supporters of the No campaign were being singled out for their stance against the Voice.
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HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl 1 year ago
yelling abusive phrases as Senator Antic walked past, including the word “racist”.
Strange to single that out as abusive - the word could only be abusive if it were uttered abusively, otherwise that’s a redundant bit of detail.
Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Sounds like it was a protest not a hate rally as the no campaign are making it out to be. It wasn’t even an explicitly pro yes protest. Looks like they were protesting against racism and fracking, as is their democratic right.
skribe@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Do we really want the opposing sides protesting the other side’s events? Tensions are high enough now. Wait until a bunch of idiots start throwing punches.
Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 1 year ago
They weren’t from the yes campaign. If anything I’d say they’re likely progressive no voters - but that’s just my assumption.
It was a socialist alternative protest not unlike something you’d see most days on your typical university campus.