What are the connotations of Joe Rogan?

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• ryannathans@lemmy.fmhy.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Chad interviewer, he’s clueless about everything so he gets the interviewee to explain everything and asks grade 1 questions the audience can follow along

  You wouldn’t rely on him for advice (unless it was related to ufc/training perhaps)

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• kogs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I used to watch his show on YouTube, not for Joe, but for the guests. I was pretty selective in who’s episodes I’d watch so I feel like I avoided a lot of the bullshit by default. But I did watch some of the real crazies just to see how crazy… very… the answer is very.

  I haven’t watched or listened to any of his stuff in a long time, probably since the start of Covid where he would push really hard that it’s fake and that freedoms were being impinged. We had some pretty tough lock downs in Australia but the vast majority of us could see why. What Joe was saying was being echoed by “the cookers” so he lost me.

  “The cookers” (as in Meth, as I understand it) is the nickname of the conspiracy theorists.

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  • Silverseren@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Oh, he got way more unhinged during and since Covid. That's when his conspiracy craziness took off for the stratosphere.

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• hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Maybe this is my chance to bring a nuanced answer to this.

  First of all, these are all speculations, because you can never diminish a person down to what content they consume.

  That said, let’s have a look at Joe Rogan: he is a podcaster who started out with a solid baseline viewership and with a positive perception. His views were very moderate. Because of a lot of circumstances he became very popular fairly quickly (one of them is probably that people found his laugh funny). He then changed his topics a bit, got more prestigious guests on the show and also changed his views from what he let shine through in the podcast. He got very much more libertarian / conservative and his topics got a bit more bizarre sometimes. Nowadays a lot of people don’t identify with him anymore and he has had some very controversial situations and takes.

  So if someone watches such a person there’s different reasons: maybe they do it for entertainment and don’t take it seriously, maybe they take it very seriously and agree with him a lot. Either way, It’s like watching trash TV: it’s not inherently wrong, but it looks kind of weird to support it, if even just by watching.

  Ok this is my little summary. Hope it helps. Also everything else old correct me if I got things wrong.

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• Gigan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Joe does long form interviews with lots of different types of people. All you could really assume is that they like listening to people with different perspectives.

  Joe mostly talks to Western people, so maybe this person likes to hear about western society through Joe’s podcast.

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• Horsey@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The deal with Rogan is that he has become increasingly politically activated in the past years since COVID started. People consider him right wing because he holds certain economic beliefs about the pandemic and is hostile towards Biden and Senator Fetterman. He is constantly complaining about how much he personally was affected by the pandemic lockdown and is completely upset about how people with large amounts of wealth were not able to freely move about because of the pandemic. He’s a comedian that really enjoys performing, and was extremely personally and financially “hurt” by the COVID measures put in place by California, where he lived most of his life until the pandemic. His views strongly represent an upper/far upper class perspective that the pandemic measures were stifling to his career and ability to vacation. He’s otherwise pretty open minded about topics of conversation outside of COVID, and can be a good source of fitness information (by that I mean, fact check anything he says before you really take anything to heart). He really honestly comes off as an idiot to people who are an expert in any field outside of athletics where he spews and “opinion” that often gets misconstrued as an educated position on whatever complex topic.

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• sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Bill Burr said it best: knuckle scrapper.

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• alecrazec@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  He’s a sophist.

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• Fredol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Holy shit you guys are terminally online if you think that Joe is far-right. People watch him because he lets the guests talk, but still follows along good enough to ask good questions. It’s really not that deep. And of course he brings controversial people on the show, why would you not in his place? It shows he has no bias and he’s ready to listen to opinions and ideas that are new/opposed to his.

  If you think joe is far right, it would also mean you think the average >40 is far right. He’s the perfect depiction of a centrist/neoliberal

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  • TheDankHold@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So centrist that he supports DeSantis, has dinner with Greg Abbot, thinks Jan 6 was a false flag, and still claims Trump facing prosecution is evidence that the US is a banana republic despite the episode immediately before having the guest lay out in irrefutable detail the real crimes DJT is standing trial for.

    If he isn’t right wing then the only other viable explanation is that he’s an empty bobble head that invites on as many conservatives voices to nod along with as they can.

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    • Ganbat@lemmy.fmhy.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      the only other viable explanation is that he’s an empty bobble head that invites on as many conservatives voices to nod along with as they can.

      You might be onto something there.

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    • Fredol@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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• vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  His a wrestler that became a podcaster. At the time his podcasts gained popularity because he was able to get very high echelon guests and he would have a very simple conversation with them. It was new at the time.

  As time goes on things got muddy. He’s a bit of a doofis who likes to say things without thinking, and some people claim that he is irresponsible with what he says because he has a large platform . Two people having a poorly thought out natural conversation becomes something different when it’s being broadcast to millions of people.

  I’m the US he has become associated with the “right wing”. He has a bit of a cult of personality following him. People lable his fans as “dude-bros” who think they’re smart, but aren’t.

  Personally I think that just like Howard Stern’s interviews, they shouldn’t be taken as informational, but can be entertaining. He does have a lot of interesting guests. I treat podcasts like these like I’m going to the zoo. The animals are interesting, but that’s about it.

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  • 3laws@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    wrestler that became a podcaster

    That’s too much. He was an entertainer, always has been, always will be.

    Whether that was wrestling, interviewing, hosting X Factor or saying n**** with his pals while goofing around microphones in 2009.

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• Veraticus@lib.lgbt ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t know what the connotations of him are in East Asia. I think the question might be geographically biased against a good answer from most English speakers.

  We can tell you what he means over here (and many people are in these replies), but that might be very different from his meaning over there, so keep that in mind.

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  • Pat12@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I don’t know what the connotations of him are in East Asia.

    I don’t think there are any, I agree the audience for my questions are people who speak English (at a level they would understand what he’s saying fluently), i don’t think he’s super well known or very popular here

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• Gingerlegs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  He used to be interesting, for about 6 months. Now he’s just grifting the idiots at $10 a month on Spotify. The reason I joined Apple Music lol

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• AProfessional@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is a great video on the topic: youtu.be/sLaXSvpfDZs

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• Saraphim@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I used to like joe Rogan as a comedian. His entire set was basically the first thing my brain thinks of - an easy crack joke with some wit. But one cannot live one’s life according to the fastest, easiest joke you can conceive of. Deeper thought reveals most of these impulse thoughts as stupid and childish. But he seems to just run with it, and has made that his public and political personality. My smart ass should not be making any meaningful decisions.

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• Bop@lemmy.film ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I saw this video recently and honestly Hasan puts it best.

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  • blunderworld@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d love to know what he said but I’m not going to sit through an hour long reaction video.

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    • frunch@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Play it at 2x speed? 😉

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• scottywh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Well, Joe Rogan is stupid.

  So, it doesn’t take much to presume that people who find what he has to say interesting are also stupid.

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