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• BunnyKnuckles@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  For reference: redshirtsalwaysdie.com/…/voyagers-native-american…

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  • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thank you very much! My app doesn’t allow me to edit the post and I was away from my computer.

    Utterly insane that anyone bought his bullshit, nevermind when he was proven to be a fraud.

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  • cheery_coffee@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s fucked up

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  • Tb0n3@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    To be fair aren’t a lot of Mexicans actually native?

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    • fluxion@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      The link isn’t about the actor, it’s about the “Native American” consultant they hired to help with his character development that turned out to be a complete fraud.

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    • PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You are correct. My Hispanic mother in law is about 60% native and there are some areas where she is from that the majority of the population is native. That being said, Beltran does not appear to be even remotely native.

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  • incendiaryperihelion@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I have never seen the word but used so liberally and wielded so poorly

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• USSBurritoTruck@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Fuck Jackie Marks and the appropriating grift he rode in on.

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  • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well that’s the best way I’ve ever heard that put.

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• chaogomu@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  A similar thing happened (on a smaller scale) with the band Nightwish. Their song, Creek Mary's Blood, has a spoken word poem in Lakota. Except the man who speaks the poem in the song, and who translated it into Lakota, John Two-Hawks, is not registered with the Lakota as a member of the tribe. He's of mixed ancestry, but that's not necessarily a dealbreaker for the various tribes...

  The poem, while containing actual words from the Lakota language, is apparently almost completely gibberish.

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• BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Don’t forget Robert Beltran is a scab too!

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  • AlolanYoda@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wait, is he? Why?

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    • Stoneykins@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I looked it up.

      Ge went to a non-official startrek convention recently, during all these strikes. All the other star trek actors weren’t allowed to/avoided talking about star trek directly because it is owned by a company they are striking against (with the exception of the animated shows I guess?). He apparently talked freely about startrek without any concern as though he doesn’t care about the strike.

      I was wondering too, because I was wondering how a well known actor “scabs” exactly, but this makes sense, he is still promoting the show, disregarding the rules and working class actors.

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• Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Is that what screwed over Chakotay, or was it just that they never really gave him a lot to do so the actor got bored and began phoning it in?

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  • Stamets@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A bit of column a and a bit of column b.

    Asked on Mastodon what Trek to start rewatching. They chose DS9 but I’ve been guilty and started Voyager on the side too. It hurts seeing Beltran so bright eyed and ready to be Riker to Janeway… Especially knowing even in the series Finale, where his death is a huge stopping point, he gets like no screen time.

    He’s a scab so fuck him on that front but I can’t help but wonder if how hes been treated just left him not to give a fuck anymore.

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• MxM111@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I do not understand this. Do people believe that genetics matter? That only correct chromosomes can give right information?

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  • RedditWanderer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A consultant for a native-american character should know about native-americans, regardless of his genetics.

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  • charonn0@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    While culture and genetics are not inextricably linked, they are nonetheless linked.

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  • Neato@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you're going to write a character that portrays a real human ethnicity or culture, why wouldn't you hire an actor from said ethnicity? It's not like they picked one so small it would be too difficult.

    That'd be like writing a show that has women in it and then only hiring men to play them.

    In this case it wasn't an alien culture, it was native Americans.

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  • Stoneykins@mander.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This would be a not bad argument if the guy was informed and did a good job.

    He was not, and he did not.

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    • MxM111@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But not because of his genes.

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