The Gang Solves Climate Change

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• JoMiran@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Unfortunately, the leaking and/or burning facilities are creating years worth of pollution in a fraction of the time.

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  • nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Unburned methane escaping is far far worse for climate change than burning it so yeah these strike are bad.

    It’s the so called payer-decider gap. The costs of this are spread out among basically the whole world (payers) while the deciders of when to end this war are basically just the US and Israel (deciders).

    Since they don’t bear the full consequences of the war, they don’t have to consider the full consequences when deciding.

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• wander1236@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This is one way to drive EV sales

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  • Bullerfar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    And up the heatpumps

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  • black_flag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    EVs will not solve climate change. Only a low-enenrgy use scenario is sustainable. We have so much more to do than just drive a different kind of car and people are not organizing this sort of effort enough.

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    • ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      While you are not wrong, the enemy of “perfect” should not be “good”.

      In this case, presuming folks get into a new vehicle ever 4-5 years on average (I know the number is skewing more toward 6-7 in the US, but the point stands) having them switch to a car that has a slightly higher production impact but makes up for it after the first 1.5 years of ownership still means we achieve net lower emissions. There are numerous studies showing that EVs, even when used on less clean electricity sources, drastically reduce total lifetime emissions compared to combustion engine vehicles.

      And let’s not forget that we can power EVs using renewable sources (solar, wind, hydro) which is just an economically and environmentally more sustainable practice than the single-use burning of a bunch of hydrocarbons.

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• zxqwas@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It will probably get replaced by coal meanwhile.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Coal power drops in China and India for first time in 52 years after clean-energy records

    Coal is too expensive and inefficient. Solar/Wind with battery backup is becoming the new hotness, as rechargeable lithium and sodium battery prices/kwh plunge below coal mining costs.

    A big appeal of natural gas was its dirt cheap extraction and transportation cost. You pressurize a well and it pumps itself. Gas is lightweight and easy to pump along pipes, so transportation is low-cost and very easy. And the machinery to convert the gas into electricity is cheap and prolific.

    Coal doesn’t work that way. Huge manual labor for extraction and transport. And using coal to generate electricity requires enormous capital investment that is heavily centralized. If you don’t already have a coal plant, you’re unlikely to build any new ones. Even in the US, a country flush with coal, the federal government is needing to force plants to stay open and operating at a loss in order to keep demand up.

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    • JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Most of that isn’t too important. The real failure you neglected to mention is the loss of the negative reinforcement that comes with coal based energy generation. If we keep burning the stuff, the big man can’t give out as many lumps to the bad children, and so they grow up to be criminals running big companies.

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  • marcos@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You can’t just scale it that quickly. Some of it will be replaced by coal, not all.

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• JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This graph of LNG infrastructure in the “Saudi Arabia of natural gas” current, planned, and proposed is sad to look at.

  Graph from 2023:

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I’ve seen much the same in the US. Work for a pipeline company and the demand for LNGs is basically maxed out.

    That said, a lot of this is coming from retirement of coal plants and other less efficient means of energy generation.

    Also, at least wrt Saudi Arabia, they’re having very similar problems to Qatar. And don’t forget that this was kicked off by Israeli strikes on Iranian production. The whole region is getting rattled.

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    • JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Oh I agree, the ‘Saudi Arabia of natural gas’ I was referring to is the United States.

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• Liome@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  That’s not solving, that’s speedrunning.

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