Don’t ‘blackmail’ us: Europe rejects Trump’s demand to help clean up Hormuz mess

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• pennomi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Maybe don’t burn all your bridges before begging for help.

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• panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  There’s just no end game here.

  They’re right, it’s an open ended war, and the only thing that can stop it is the US deciding to stop it.

  And even then, there’s the question of does Iran retaliate with a US retreat (probably no, but after this oil states will be strategically building away from the strait.

  Even if they send war ships, what do they accomplish? Next step is the US will tell them to have courage and buy tons of American missile interceptors and patrol the waters, making European soldiers targets instead of American soldiers.

  Why would the French or Germans want their own soldiers to die for nothing, to shield a country threatening them, and with no ability to influence the end to this (and likely drag it out longer).

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Well, that’s the funny part: at this stage the war only really ends if Iran wants it to end.

    If the US stops bombing them they can still keep on blocking passage in the Straight, pounding American bases in the region and attacking Israel - America unilaterally disengaging will only make it easier for Iran.

    Further, America bombing a school full of kids means that Iran has a lot more motivation as well as internal and even external support to extract their pound of flesh from America, Israel and their allies, and all those Golf nations around Iran with American bases in them are the easiest allies of America and Israel to go after.

    Last but not least, if indeed as some say the US and Israel are running low on interceptors AND if Iran’s strategy for a war with America also included in this, then it’s quite likelly that we’re entering the phase when Iran does the most damage, which would mean that Iran is even less motivated to stop if America disengages.

    The shit that Trump and Netanyahu seems to have gone beyond the Kicking A Smaller Kid In The Playground and into Openning Pandora’s Box territory.

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    • xav@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Pro-level FAFO

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• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Gee, the guys he stupidly threatened and bullied a few months ago, don’t feel like pulling his ass out of the fire now?

  Hilarious.

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• The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Maybe if he could stop being an irrational cunt for 5 fucking minutes?

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• stumu415@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  As expected this clown is already lashing out to Europe as the little toddler he is. That’s a great tactic to get people on your side. I’m glad the rest of the world is moving on without the US and we are better for it.

  yahoo.com/…/trump-lashes-us-allies-over-231118174…

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• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If you burned the bridges you don’t get to cross back.

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• Kumikommunism@hexbear.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  They’re all still funding Israel though. Hmm, that’s strange.

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  • Transform2942@lemmy.ml ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m sure any day now the Euros will be announcing their independent foreign policy and diversified economic ties

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• Doomsider@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Unfortunate headline: blackmail is literally all Trump’s knows to do.

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• atropa@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  If you shit your pants  clean it up yourself

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• CannonFodder@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Someone has got to put trump out to pasture.

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  • StillAlive@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    American voters could’ve but they were like ‘meh’.

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    • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      We’re beyond voting, im Canadian and this fucker is costing me money. Americans need to grow balls and take that second amendment they’re always insisting they need, and use it

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