Gamers hear that Valve has been overcharging them for years, and think Epic is the villain.
Everyone’s collective dick slobbering of Valve and billionaire Gabe is embarassing as fuck.
Epic Games CEO Tim Sweeney supports the $900 million lawsuit against Valve, arguing Steam is "the only major store still holding onto payment ties and 30% junk fee"
Submitted 3 weeks ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/epic-games-ceo-tim-sweeney-111609426.html
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masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
nednobbins@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Valve doesn’t overcharge me.
They provide an excellent user experience. They have one of the few stores where you can actually get reliable user reviews. Their return policies are generous. I’ve never had any problems with fraud or scams. Their search and recommendation functions are pretty good.
To me, that’s a great deal and they’ve earned every penny of their markup.
smeg@infosec.pub 3 weeks ago
And if their percentage was unreasonably high, their competitors would sell at lower prices. Strangely, they don’t. Which tells us that Tim’s complaints are nothing but bullshit.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Vale literally and probably does and has. 30% of revenue is not a reasonable fee for basically anything. That’s a Mafia markup.
Like lmfao, it takes dozens to hundred of devs like 5-7 years to make a game like Baldur’s Gate, and you think that Valve deserves 30% of all of their sales for managing the same basic storefront they built 20 years ago.
That’s absurd.
curiousaur@reddthat.com 3 weeks ago
How has valve been overcharging when devs and publishers set the prices on steam?
masterspace@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Because of Valve taking a 30% cut of revenue of every sale.
Kkk2237pl@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Switch to Gog :)
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Are brainwashed G*mers finally going to see Valve for the monopolistic anti-consumer sack of shits they are.
Looks at comments
I guess not.
3abas@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s not about defending valve, it’s about not buying epic’s pro consumer rhetoric. They have a worse product, a history of anti consumer practices, and you shouldn’t let them use you to gain leverage to be able to abuse you more.
Steam is DRM, but so is Epic. And if the two, Steam/valve have contributed meaningfully to open source software and the gaming industry. In a world where capitalism rules, Steam/Valve is hardly the worst option.
I for one look forward to the Steam Deck; my HP Reverb G2 became a paperweight when it lost support overnight after a Windows update, and while it’s not completely open, I expect valve’s headset to be supported for as long as the hardware survives.
Fuck DRM, but if you want to pay for convenience and don’t care about owning your games, Steam is the best option.
Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s the problem. EA, Nintendo, Blizzard, etc all use to be “cool” pro-consumer companies until they suddenly werent. I hate ppl getting so use to convenience until its too late and then when we all own nothing we bought anymore and everyone is standing around going “How did this happen?”
imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
What anti-consumer is exactly about Steam? Comparatively to pretty much any other online game store, Steam is a super-pro-consumer-the-only-good-choice store.
merdaverse@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They have the most generous refund policy of any store and don’t force any DRM on published games. The horror!!
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Spent a decade saying refunds weren’t possible until the EU told them to wise up. And even then it’s the bare minimum.
Selling broken and abandoned games.
Entering deals with publishers to force physical copies of the game to use Steam. Making the disc worthless.
elvis_depresley@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
I think it’s satire
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They probably will when the steam store turns to shit, valve stops supporting Linux and making hardware they want, stops doing family sharing, and pretty much removes everything from the steam client except the store.
You have to admit, valve has a pretty good reason to be liked.
Eximius@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Lots of holiday deals, fair regional pricing, massive open-source contributions, hanging back from making era-defining, envelope-pushing games to just make the gaming industry on PC better.
GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Valve only has a good reputation because for generations of G*mers it’s the default option.
They have been indoctrinated into Steam’s system.
merdaverse@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Looking through my favorites list games on Steam, most games have at least one alternative place where they can be bought between GOG, Epic, Itch or the publisher/devs own store. How is that a monopoly? This is without even mentioning other consoles (which you could argue are monopolies on their own).