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Jimmy Carr on Why Everyone Is Wrong About AI

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Stefan_S_from_H@discuss.tchncs.de⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaYOskvlq18

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  • athairmor@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Didn’t he go perform for the Saudis?

    Shut the fuck up, Jimmy.

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    • Stefan_S_from_H@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The list is too long to remember, and I don’t look it up every single time I mention a comedian.

      • Mo Amer
      • Aziz Ansari
      • Wayne Brady
      • Hannibal Buress
      • Bill Burr
      • Jimmy Carr
      • Dave Chappelle
      • Louis C.K.
      • Whitney Cummings
      • Pete Davidson
      • Chris Distefano
      • Omid Djalili
      • Zarna Garg
      • Ben Hart
      • Kevin Hart
      • Gabriel Iglesias
      • Jimeoin
      • Maz Jobrani
      • Jessica Kirson
      • Jo Koy
      • Bobby Lee
      • Sebastian Maniscalco
      • Sam Morril
      • Mark Normand
      • Russell Peters
      • Jeff Ross
      • Sugar Sammy
      • Andrew Santino
      • Andrew Schulz
      • Tom Segura
      • Ali Siddiq
      • Cipha Sounds
      • Aries Spears
      • Chris Tucker
      • Jack Whitehall

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riyadh_Comedy_Festival#Part…

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      • madcaesar@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Bill Burr was the biggest disappointment. He went from based to a total piece of shit, gas lightning his fans.

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    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Why the fuck do people care what comedians and actors think about anything?

      Most of them barely got out of high school.

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      • mrmaplebar@fedia.io ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Bad take for two reasons:

        1. Being consistently funny requires intellect and general cleverness. You can't be quick witted if you're stupid.

        2. More importantly we are all mostly ignorant. You could have a PhD in 3 topics and have spent years in higher education, and you still know only a tiny speck of all that there is to know.

        I'm not a fan of Jimmy Carr, especially after the Saudi shit, and I fucking hate AI. But the idea that we shouldn't value the opinions of artists is pretty dumb. There are plenty of smart artists with interesting things to say and unique perspectives.

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      • Stefan_S_from_H@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        “Carr studied social science and political science at Gonville and Caius College, Cambridge, graduating with first-class honours in 1994.” en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Carr#Early_life_and_e…

        There are interesting clips from his stand-up when he takes questions from the audience. Usually he wants to fuck their moms, but occasionally there are very intriguing and intelligent answers.

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  • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Tl;dw: he has two points:

    1. That between cameras and now AI monitoring, it has just drastically reduce the cost of running an authoritarian regime. He claims that running the Stahsi used to cost like 20% of the government budget, but can now be done for next to nothing and if will be harder for governments to resist that temptation.

    2. That there hasn’t been much progress in the world of physics since the 70s, so what happens if you point AI and it’s compute power at the field of physics? It could seen wondrous progress and a world of plenty.

    Personally I think point 1 is genuinely interesting and valid, and that point 2 is kind of incredible nonsense. Yes, all other fields are just simplified forms of physics, and physics fundamentally underlies all of them. That doesn’t mean that no new knowledge has come from those fields, and that doesn’t mean that new knowledge in physics automatically improves them. Physics has in many ways, done its job. Obviously there’s still more to learn, but between quantum mechanics and general relativity, we can actually model most human scale processes in our universe, with incredible precision. The problem is that that the closer we get to understanding the true underlying math of the universe, the harder it is to compute that math for a practical system… at a certain point, it requires a computer on the scale of the universe to compute.

    Most of our practical improvements in the past decade have and will come from chemistry, and biology, and engineering in general, because there is far more room to improve human scale processes by finding shortcuts, and patterns, and designing systems to behave the way we want. AI’s computer scale pattern matching ability will undoubtedly help with that, but I think it’s less likely that it can make any true physics breakthroughs, nor that those breakthroughs would impact daily life that much.

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    • egerlach@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ugh, I’m tired of point 2. Yes, LLMs have found a few patterns in large-scale study analyses that humans hadn’t, but they weren’t deep insights and there had been buried hypotheses around them from existing authors, IIRC (too lazy to source).

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      • Perspectivist@feddit.uk ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        AI is not synonymous with LLMs. AlphaFold figured out protein folding. It’s an AI but not an LLM.

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  • Ulrich@feddit.org ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Can you just skip the clickbait and post the answer

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  • nostrauxendar@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Jimmy “Brutal Regime Jester”/“Tax Evasion” Carr wanders into another area of his vast and deep expertise: technology.

    I would say he needs to stop flapping his gums but after all the roadwork he’s had done on his face I’m not sure they’re even his to flap.

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  • antbricks@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Just another celebrity talking about stuff they don’t really know that much about. Jimmy’s witty and all, but his “physics is real and everything else is just stamp collecting”… sigh.

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    • felbane@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Wait until he learns that physics is just applied mathematics

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      • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        And mathematics is just applied philosophy

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    • swicano@programming.dev ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Wait until he learns that physics is just theoretical chemistry

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  • little_tuptup@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    didn’t read the article, but i know enough to not get my tech news from a pretentious p.o.s. like Jimmy Carr.

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  • realitista@lemmus.org ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Using it for authoritarianism, sure… But the end state I’m concerned with is a private company building a fleet of robots so big that it can take on a police force or army and win. And then subjugate the population with or just kill everyone off (because who needs everyone else now that there’s a robot army do do whatever you want). I definitely wouldn’t put it past Elon, Theil, Alex Karp, etc. One of those fuckers would probably do it if they could.

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