Framework is the only correct answer here.
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Submitted 1 month ago by Cenzorrll@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 month ago
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Most current Gen. thinkpads have fully upgradable ram. The T4XX/14 series had half soldered ram until a year or two ago. SSDs have basically always been replaceable.
They’re also very easy to work on since it’s only a couple of screws and you have full access to the inside of the machine. Those older thinkpads were nightmares if you had to take the whole mobo out. Even MacBooks were easier.
FG_3479@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Thinkpads are what you want to look for. You can get a refurbished one from eBay or Amazon Renewed for $300 and they almost all have upgradable storage and RAM, as well as having the rest of the parts being easier to replace than a consumer laptop.
The T14 series is the one to look at.
crazycraw@crazypeople.online 1 month ago
I think folks will mention framework but I am not 100% on board there. never owned one.
I’d claim without much proof other than anecdotal that dell/Alienware typically have 5+ years of life and partial upgradeability for most components. storage, ram, some other but not graphics/mobo.I’m looking at tuxedo and system 76 at the moment, and leaning towards tuxedo, but I have different use case.
Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Framework was and is certainly high on my list, but I’d rather go in a used direction and I do have concerns about them sponsoring hyprland and omarchy, and I haven’t seen anything about them backing down on their statements.
If I were to categorize what I consider most important as far as upgradability goes, it would be the following:
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Storage - Drives fail, full stop. It needs to be replaceable. Storage can also be a backup to ram, so if that isn’t replaceable something needs to be. My experience with a 32gb nonreplaceable storage laptop has soured my entirely on non-replaceable storage.
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Ram - Ram can fail and as technology proceeds, ram tends to be the most expendable resource as technology progresses. So as time goes on, what you started with just won’t cut it in the future. I don’t see this changing anytime soon, so it either needs to be upgradable or way overboard in capacity and to a lesser degree speed.
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Secondary components (wifi, bluetooth, etc.) - I honestly don’t mind replacing these components with a usb dongle, but it sure would be nice to replace the internal components and leave USB ports free.
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Graphics - I’m not a laptop gamer, I don’t see it as the place for it. While there are some processes that would benefit from a better GPU, I feel like mobile CPUs cover that aspect very well.
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CPU/motherboard - A replaceable cpu is a rarity to find in a laptop, and processing power/watt doesn’t seem to have a huge difference within generations which is probably my most important factor in a laptop. Sockets change so often and chipsets aren’t often compatible with newer chips that I don’t much see the point if the motherboard isn’t replaceable. It would be cool to have a replaceable motherboard, but considering how fine I am with older technology, I think even those would still be outdated by the time I start considering that anyway.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Framework has a refurb store with deep discounts. No need to buy new.
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phanto@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I have an original framework. I swapped the RAM and SSD in seconds. The add-on ports make changing functions trivial. I swap my HDMI to a wired Ethernet port on the regular, and the expansion cards actually work through a dock, too. I really like it. It does throw the odd “USB port has malfunctioned” error from time to time, but it’s quite rare.
gian@lemmy.grys.it 1 month ago
In Dell machine from that time (like the XPS 9550) is pretty easy to upgrade the Ram, the storage or replace the battery. On some models you can sacrifice battery life (using a smaller one) for a second ssd.
On some model also the keyboard is pretty easy to replace.0ops@piefed.zip 1 month ago
I have a 9560, and I’ve personally replaced the ssd, ram, battery (multiple times, both sizes), ac jack, and wireless adapter, plus redid the thermal paste, this all in the 5 or 6 years that I’ve had it. It’s pretty easy to work on, you just need a Phillips and a few sizes of torx. The official service manual is a huge resource there.
My L15 Thinkpad looks comparable too, though I’ve only done the ram it’s also just a matter of removing some screws.
madnificent@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Framework makes it their point but also charges for it. Some big make laptops also allow to upgrade parts.
But lets not forget Linux specific laptops. They generally allow upgrading ram and storage. Slimbook even sold me a newer (but also new) keyboard when mine gave up after 5 years or so. Most parts seem to be available still.
Some brands to look for in this group are Tuxedo, bto, slimbook, starbook. Clevo might work too.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Framework laptops are about as upgradable as you’re ever going to get. The 16 now even has a video card upgrade.