I am never totally sure if, when someone tries to use “liberal” as a perjorative, if they are talking about market liberalism or social liberalism. Same when people try to use <socialism, communism, capitalism, etc> because it seems that definitions have become so watered down, redefined, and loaded that it’s almost impossible to have a reasonable discussion. Most of all, I see people that have a fundamental glaring hole in their own belief, or definition, of what “society” means.
I'm sure the liberals have a great explanation
Submitted 5 months ago by commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com to history@lemmy.world
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sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 5 months ago
Xaphanos@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Something you may not know is the origin of the word fascist.
The fasci siciliani were peasants and farmers seeking basic rights and reforms before 1900. Fasci refered to the fact that a single straw is weak, but a bundle was strong.
The term was later ressurected in a nostalgic sense to make the new rising popularists look like men of the people.
actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
In fact, I do!
My explanation is that OP doesn’t understand the history he’s sharing, and ia fundamentally misinterpreting both (a) pre-WWII Italy and (b) modern American politics.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
but you haven’t actually explained anything
actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
You’re basically the Emperor, as from The Emperor’s New Clothes.
MantisToboggon@lazysoci.al 5 months ago
Your mom’s fatass ate him that’s not socialisms fault.
davidagain@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I don’t know, but I’m certainly not sure that the Italian liberal-national party was liberal any more than the German national socialist party was socialist.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
from what I can find on Wikipedia under the section “the brief party” they sound exactly like the Democrats of today. but it’s an uncited section so I don’t even have any further reading.