Motion sensors in high-performance mice can be used as a microphone to spy on users, thanks to AI — Mic-E-Mouse technique harnesses mouse sensors, converts acoustic vibrations into speech

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• cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That requires a mouse with an 8kHz polling rate. With a 1kHz polling rate, this trick will be limited to sounds under 500Hz.

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  • SkabySkalywag@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Cool, cool. So what hertz range would you say a woman moaning or a particularly loud fart fall around ? Just out of curiosity…

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    • ramble81@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Human speech is between about 130-300Hz, so even with a lower poling rate it can pick it up. And assuming she sound like a mosquito, it’ll pick things up.

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  • TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Huh you know from a music perspective I know we can get a lot higher than 500hz but most speech is apparently around 1-300hz.

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  • RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I only speak in infrasound…

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  • MorkofOrk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Well now I kind of want to mic up a kick drum with my gaming mouse for fun lol

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    • MorkofOrk@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I wonder if it would sound better taped on, in the drum itself, or on the floor in front. Seems like there would be minimal bleed too haha, might be a cool lo-fi thing

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  • toothpick@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And probably only works when configured to use the the highest DPI settings.

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• Bongles@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Can we stop finding ways to do this?

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  • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    www.spymuseum.org/…/the-great-seal/

    Governments have been finding crazy ways to listen to eachother for so long. Now every ear is directed at consumers to milk them like cows.

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  • pulsewidth@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sadly no. The only way is to come up with countermeasures.

    • play music through speakers while using mouse
    • leave rumble gamepad playing demo of game on desk
    • put vibrator set to ‘random pulse mode’ on the desk

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  • Eagle0110@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If the people on the good side stop trying to find exploits like this, and by finding them develop awareness and knowledge about them, so that countermeasures can be devised, then bad actors are much more likely to find new exploits first, and when they exploit it you won’t even see it coming anymore.

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  • quick_snail@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Use a trackpad?

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    • AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What kind of masochist would ever want to use a trackpad? Nothing against people who actually do, but I absolutely HATE trackpads because I have had a long history of not having a good time with them.

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• Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We’all need foss mice.

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  • Dhar@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    We got 'em already: ploopy.co/mouse/

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    • Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      PMW3360
      QMK
      kit to build it yourself

      A poopy mouse, nice!

      3D printed

      Interesting.

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• fubarx@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  the raw audio data is run through digital signal processing using a Wiener Filter, where you can start to hear some information.

  Oy, no tittering in the back.

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  • Tronn4@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Weiner Filter sounds made up

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• Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  For a moment I imagined some Chad mouse with super sensing

  They mean computer mouse…

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• AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Now I need to know whether or not they did this testing with trackball mice. Hopefully they’re safer from these types of attacks.

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• qwestjest78@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Geeze, companies today are so desperate

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• W3dd1e@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Just use a mouse pad.

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• quick_snail@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Here’s a link to the source

  sites.google.com/view/mic-e-mouse

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