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• edgemaster72@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I think you’re putting a little too much emphasis on the “paper tiger” bit. It’s become a common saying that’s pretty well divorced from how it first became popularly known. Also, you kind of answer your own question:

  how do people not see what’s truly going on

  uneducated Americans

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  • Plurrbear@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I know but honestly, if you came from a communist country like China, you wouldn’t think that the comment of “paper tigers” should be ignored.

    I still have family in Vietnam, China, and now the ignored conflict over Hong Kong as “reading too much into it”. Did you see what’s happening there? It’s been going on for years and no one cares or knows in the west… but I do and I know, it’s my family over there fighting to protect their passports and pleading to not be apart of the mainland…

    So I do not! Think it’s “divorced for how it became”, I know first hand that comments, lead to actions, and lead to WORSE.

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• PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Mao didn’t invent the phrase, he only used it. The phrase vastly predates communism in China.

  Trump is not any kind of communist, Maoist or otherwise. For example, he’s not nationalizing any industries, he has not abolished private property, he has not supported workers’ rights, he has not attempted to disempower the capitalist class nor has he promised to do so, and the de-facto redistribution of wealth is from the poor to the rich, i.e. the opposite direction of what communists call for.

  Trump is a fascist like every other US President. However, Trump is accelerating the decay of American capitalism into full fascism at an alarming clip.

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  • Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thisshiws very well to what extent China is communist.

    • nationalizing industries: yes
    • making industries worker-controlled
    • private property partially abolished
    • workers’ rights even less supported than in USA
    • capitalist class being steadily empowered (they are getting increasingly rich and disconnected from the workers, even if their companies do have to follow the state lead than in more civilized countries)
    • wealth is being moved to the wealthy (albeit not nearly as fast as in USA)

    Of course this only tells whether China is.following its own official ideology, not whether what someone else does fulfills that ideology or not.

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    • Plurrbear@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But didn’t Trump want to privatize the postal service?

      And didn’t Trump cut regulations for factories recently? This includes workers rights and safety. He bailed out Argentina and then China bought all their soy beans vs ours? How did that happen?

      Cutting funding to rural farmers (USDA) and programs in the rural areas like food stamps, aid, etc.?

      And the billionaires are ruling our country now as they do not pay nearly the same as taxes of an individual citizen, ie Amazon… etc. I feel like I am just a cog in a machine and have nothing to show for it due to rising costs on everything but wages.

      As a child coming from communism, I know it’s not that bad as it was there and I believe or think the problem here is more about fascism but either way, I think I am just confused???

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  • Plurrbear@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thank you! I am beginning to understand more due to your comment and trying to research but the internet is full of falsehoods and garbage, why I am reaching out to my Lemmy community because I left Reddit due to trash mods. I know here people actually care and try to help other people. So honestly, thank you!

    I appreciate you comment because I am over her reeling, my family left all that government because it horrid and came here legally unlike Trump’s family of war dodgers, both him and Elon’s family came here illegally so what he is doing is so savage! I just can’t wrap my head around everything going on.

    I get about 30 calls a day asking me, “to come the immigration office and verify my status” the message comes in English then in Mandarin… I speak neither. My dad is from Vietnam came here with a sponsor and became a citizen and I was born here… it’s honestly terrifying. I am legit scared for my safety. ICE is out of control right now.

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    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      ICE is out of control right now. (My mom was born here)

      That fucking sucks 😞… Fuck ICE

      I appreciate you comment because I am over her reeling, my family left all that government because it horrid and came here legally unlike Trump’s family of war dodgers, both him and Elon’s family came here illegally so what he is doing is so savage!

      Personally, I don’t oppose Trump for being a draft dodger or Elon for being an “illegal immigrant”. It’s… literally everything else.

      IMO when the drafts were active, Americans had an ethical duty to get out of them because the wars America fights are for private interests. And no one should be illegal, i.e. following the law with respect to immigration only shows the wealth of the immigrant and says nothing about their character. For example, if I was to propose a law that instantly made all immigration legal, would you oppose that?

      I just can’t wrap my head around everything going on.

      American politics is weird and complicated. Take it slow.

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    • Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I almost completely agree with PM_ME_etc. Even to the part that yes, you are afraid of China and Chinese cultures in ways that are not necessary.

      At the same time, it is China’s goal to turn the west towards authoritarianism. Many parts of MAGA’s political goals are coaligned with those of China, even if their goals regarding economy politics are extremely different.

      Currently an increasing share of the western consumption is fed by factories in China. We’re currently practically completely able to produce mobile phones without China, because even if the phone is made in Mexico or South Korea, it is still made of Chinese components, such as the tiny torx screws not made in scale in a reasonable quality anywhere else than China.
      Eventually China will shut down that trade. It will hurt China, but if as a consequence China can get us under its command, they will gain more than they lose.

      Currently it would be extremely crucial to support industrial production practically anywhere outside China, some clear cases, such as NK, of course excluded. An amount of sinophobia is very necessary to make this happen!

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• FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is not criticism; I feel very similarly about the big picture to what you wrote. Trump is not a Mao lover. He would have to know who that was first. And I think communist Chinese history is one of his many blank spots.

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  • Plurrbear@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hahaha! That just made my night, you are right! I know he’s a puppet for Miller but seriously your comment made my night because yeah the douche can’t even use the bathroom when he needs to. Haha!

    You are def right, he has no idea who that even is… but still the fact he said it and I feel like everyone is ignoring is terrifying!

    My family came here LEGALLY unlike his family (war dodgers) and even Elon both families came here illegally which is so savage that they are deporting people even citizens left and right while they are hypocrites themselves! My family left because the same shit going on right now… :/

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    • FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Since you referenced “trash mods” on reddit in this thread: I have a feeling your post may also fall foul of forum rules here. There is a question in it but most of the post isn’t about that. So don’t be surprised if a non-trashy lemmy mod comes in to mod it away.

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• actionjbone@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Sir, this is a Wendy’s.

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