Submitted 1 year ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
Some Apple users say its parental controls aren’t working properly. A CEO who has 4 kids called it ‘frustrating.’::Parents told The Wall Street Journal they have to continuously check their Screen Time settings to ensure their children’s usage is limited.
A CEO said something? We better listen to them, they are a CEO! That’s important!
I had the same thought. Pretty weird article. Business insider is weird.
I mean, it’s still a somewhat useful headline, though.
It tells us “a person who’s specialized in coordinating work from other people and isn’t good with technology can’t use this feature”
So, we need to make the feature simpler, or not bother with it
Do some parenting? Not just leave them alone with gadgets if you don’t want them on them all day.
There are involved parents who still want to use parental controls. It’s not like everyone who uses the controls is relying solely on them. It’s not an all-or-nothing proposition.
Oh I agree. I guess my points was not to rely on parental controls, and also generally know when it’s time to say it’s been enough screen time for the day.
Do you have kids?
You’re going to need a more original/thoughtful response. I have kids and I think like this person. I don’t trust parental controls, kids and content creators know how to get around them. I, personally, think it is idiotic to assume parental controls do more than present a barrier to content, not usually a blocker.
What happens when your kids use other devices without parental controls at a friend’s house or school? Will your kids know about being responsible with content and how to navigate to safe spaces, or are they just going to go totally wild?
So, yes, I do have kids and no I do not blindly trust parental controls of any sort. Just want you to pack up that argument right now. Real annoying when parents think they can discredit a viable view because the person they are talking to hasn’t had a crotch goblin.
This.
The other frustrating thing about Apple’s parental controls is that you need another Apple device to use them. Good old fashioned brand lock-in. No good reason you couldn’t manage this in a browser.
and this is why I’ll always choose Google over Apple. Despite Google’s flaws of surrepticiously killing their products. At least they don’t have these ridiculous walled garden that Apple has. See, for example, Google’s parental control app/solution: families.google/familylink/
Anyway, small side rant. I am a big big big advocate of parent’s doing their job as parents of setting up parental controls on devices their kids have access to. It is SO MUCH of a better option than the government requiring us adults to give up our privacy to verify that we are indeed adults to see adult content. Like, yes, I do want to see adult content. But hell no there’s no way in hell I’m violating my privacy with privacy invasive big brothery bullshit.
Why are the opinions of some random CEO of a company that isn’t even named even in this article? It is irrelevant and doesn’t even make me want to read the article.
I have three kids. I am very present. I work from home and I’m constantly monitoring what they are using . Parental controls are a nightmare.
There are apps that are rated as ages 4+ but they have chat features.
There are apps you’ve ok’d them to use but requires the parents PIN every time they open it.
Screen limits randomly reset themselves. A lot of times that means you have allowed something that limit blocked and now you have to ok it again.
Imagine being out with three friends and you need to know everything they are doing on their phone and have to enter a password on it every 15 min.
Another annoying thing is if you approve an app from the App Store once, it’s approved for install forever.
Going off what you had mentioned about apps with chat features, we’ve run into times where we’ll approve the app thinking it’s fine, but then our kid finds out they can chat with random strangers and divulge personal information. At that point we delete the app, but they can reinstall it whenever they want. 😬
Yup. Not to mention we have a Roku, iPhone, Chromebook, and Switch we have to manage, with three kids profiles on each.
Another thing, I have a 13 year old and a lot of apps (like YouTube) have little kid and adult.
When I was a kid and had cable there were lots of content edited for mass consumption. You could turn on TBS and watch an R movie edited down to somewhere between PG and PG-13. No one is editing down all this content now.
What a hassle. Might actually have to be a present parent in your child’s life. 😰
Do you have kids?
Just going to follow you through the thread to remind you that a person who doesn’t have kids isn’t immediately unknowledgeable about a subject. That’s some parent gatekeeping bullshit so that you, as a parent don’t have to think critically when being challenged.
Source: I have kids so apparently they that’s all that matters to you.
Screen time limits hasn’t been working for months, have had several support cases in regards to it, debugging and logs sent to Apple and nothing.
Second to last time they actually admitted to having problems with the function (accidentally I am sure since I can bet money on that they aren’t allowed to admitting to faults).
Have just given up on the function now
They were amazing for years and switched from push notifications to iMessage and broke everything, used to work to allow from Apple Watch, now that function appears to work but doesn’t do anything
It works on my 2 boys but not on my daughters. Good thing is she told me it wasn’t working and still followed the rules by not using it after a certain time of day. She’s a great kid. On the other hand, both of my boys would have totally abused it.
Expecting technology to raise your kids is one of the key reasons humanity is on the downward trend intellectually. How about actually spend time with your kids teaching them right from wrong rather than expecting a multi billion dollar corporation that actively uses child and slave labour to build its products to raise your child for you. Always find these types of articles to be brilliantly hilarious. “I’m a CEO, someone else or something else needs to raise my kids!”
parental controls across the board are an afterthought by these companies at best, even if the product is geared toward children. Internet is off on thier devices and they have a growing, curated intranet to enjoy.
That’s a typical layer-8 problem. #pebkac
FoxBJK@midwest.social 1 year ago
Don’t rely on Silicon Valley to babysit your child. All software has flaws, and a kid who wants to watch more YouTube videos will figure out a way because there’s probably a dozen videos out there detailing each bug.
V-Chips didn’t do shit in my era, and we found ways around Bess, so none of this surprises me.
lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 1 year ago
How can the kid watch videos on how to watch more videos when they are blocked from watching videos?
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FoxBJK@midwest.social 1 year ago
“Hmm… I wonder if Mom’s password to unlock the iPad is the same as her pin code for… holy shit is she really this stupid!?”
Or if that’s not enough, here’s my lazy attempt to see what the options are: www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZaMNsGSvRE
Imagine if I put more than 10 seconds of thought into this.
Nioxic@lemmy.world 1 year ago
My kid doesnt have a smartphone. But he has access to our family pc, for gaming and music.
But no video. I blocked the browser and youtube completely
realitista@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Do you have kids? I can tell you as a parent that parental controls are godsend.
If I were to try to do the same myself, it would be 10-15 arguments a day. When the software does it, there is no argument or very little. Sometimes they ask for more, and I can evaluate their case. Much better than chasing them around trying to tear the iPad out of their hands.
All that being said, I’ve had to use other 3rd party software because Apple’s parental controls are buggy and unreliable.
freeman@lemmy.pub 1 year ago
My 5 year old is already sneaky enough that when I put him on starfall he will wait for me to get distracted and chnage tabs and type gibberish into search, or click the YouTube icon in chrome and do the same (which is more dangerous, YouTube has some really weird shit if you search special characters).
I alsready have dns controls on network etc and generally manage access by physically retaining control of a device. M
But as they get older adding some level of content filter that’s https aware may be needed.
Though as an IT admin I’ll try and rely on trust and communication over technology solutions. But still. Like borderline planning to dump them on their own vlan, with a Pi-hole and some extra filters, that also goes to Cisco umbrella and some sort of squid guard, websense or paloalto filter.
MaybeItWorks@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Software can be very helpful for all sorts of situations. However, that doesn’t mean you get to abdicate all responsibility.
The person you are responding to is simply noting that kids are not stupid and often find ways to get around parental controls. There are also ways for content to get around controls while complying with controls. It’s unfortunate Apple’s software is buggy, it should be better.
Dr_Decoy@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Can confirm “the limit is the limit” 🤷♂️ works WAY better than “because I said so.”