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What if Australia were Ukraine? Trump and Putin prove our strategy to trust the US is a roll of the dice

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Davriellelouna@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨australia@aussie.zone⁩

https://www.crikey.com.au/2025/08/18/ukraine-usa-trump-putin-defence-strategy-aukus/

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  • Tenderizer@aussie.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No way America would give up Pine Gap.

    I think America is more likely to invade us than China is anyway.

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    • TimePencil@infosec.exchange ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      @Tenderizer

      America invade Australia?
      I thought they'd already done that...
      ... to just about every country.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr8ljRgcJNM

      @Davriellelouna

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      • Tenderizer@aussie.zone ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I meant invade like if they invaded California and overthrew Gavin Newsom (this is not an endorsement of Newsom).

        In our case, they’d enter parliament, arrest Albanese, and put Ralph Babet in charge. Probably after the Murdoch runs a whatsitcalled campaign to give plausible deniability to the Americans for doing this. Then again, the CIA has couped our leaders before (although I don’t image the Americans will be satisfied with Sussan Ley or another ALP member in charge so they’d probably need to do a full military intervention).

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  • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Don’t forget if you elect a government official that the U.S. doesn’t like, as Brazil did, you will get different treatment as well.

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    • MisterFrog@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Some say this already happened with Whitlam, given the CIA’s comments about Kerr being “their man”.

      We’ll probably never know for sure, but I would bet there would be regime change done here if we ever decide to stop allowing our resources to be plundered by US (and other) companies

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  • Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    There is nothing about us that is trustworthy. Trusting America is as wise as trusting Russia.

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    • poofkaboom@feddit.nl ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Imo it is worse because you trust Russia to be your enemy. US acts like a friend and then fucks you

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  • bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    The point this article is fair, but as long as Australia is in five eyes I think they’re solid.

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  • Lembot_0004@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    roll of the dice

    They produce dice with only 1s and 2s on them?

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    • javiwhite@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Most GMs just use a coin, but D2 dice do exist.

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      • Lembot_0004@discuss.online ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        That’s 50/50 – totally too optimistic. You need 5 "1"s and 1 “2”. Maybe even a few zeroes.

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  • DilbertDooley@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Australia is an ally. Ukraine was never an ally. They never will be. Also, Ukraine does not want to end the war. It’s actually the best thing that ever happened to them. It made them relevant for once.

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    • null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is the most poorly reasoned comment I’ve read in a while. Well done.

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    • calcopiritus@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah who wouldn’t want to be killed indiscriminately and children abducted? They got the spotlight!

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      • Sciaphobia@sh.itjust.works ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That person should ask Canada how being arguably our closest ally has been working out for them.

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