FBI Seizure of Mastodon Server is a Wakeup Call to Fediverse Users and Hosts to Protect their Users

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• Carighan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Well, I don’t really see the headline in it, tbh. That is, yeah of course servers can be seized? That’s kinda a given?

  It doesn’t really matter what software they run in regards to whether they can be seized or not.

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  • zerofk@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The points made in the article are that server admins should have policies regarding privacy and data retention, that users should be aware of this possibility, and that developers should ensure more of the users’ data is encrypted at all times.

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    • starlinguk@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They should also be held accountable and not turn a blind eye to illegal behaviour on their server. If someone uses their server to organise a terrorist attack, they've facilitated it.

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  • pjhenry1216@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Did you read the article? Its not just about hardware being taken and there's things that can be done to even minimize that issue.

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• Fizz@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t think this is a wakeup call to anyone tbh. Servers are constantly getting seized by government authorities. Anyone who is worried about this already knows the risks and have likely vetted their instance.

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  • gammasfor@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah at the end of the day the fact the Fediverse is decentralised doesn’t grant some magic immunity to local laws. I’m surprised there are people who think this?

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• daniskarma@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t know who expected the fediverse to be the most secure and private network of the world.

  It’s a “independent” and open source social media platform. A better place to be than corporate social media. That’s it.

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  • venoft@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I wouldn’t even be surprised it it came out the FBI was hosting fediverse servers aimed at some crime. Like a instance dedicated to digital piracy.

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  • kanzalibrary@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There’s some fediverse that we can call it “the most secure and private” network. Not all of them, but yes… the fallacy of pop culture understanding the fediverse hype by many people is too much. I agree…

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• Roundcat@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think the we should use fediverse with the expectations we had using the internet of old: Don't post anything you want to keep secret, and anything you put online in potentially permanent.

  I was always a little skeevy towards Facebook and other major social media sites when everyone was encouraged to use real names, post personal details, and share real photos of themselves and friends. Hell I still don't get how people here share everything from faces to nudes and not expect their privacy to be compromised.

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  • Hyperreality@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    An entire generation has grown up not expecting privacy. It's their normal.

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    • artifice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Big tech companies’ wet dream

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• woshang@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  A correction/clarification for those people who are trying to find freedom of speech on Fediverse,
  as Nate says, nothing on the Fediverse is private.
  Because everything is transparent, and they all link to your personal email address.

  Freedom of speech on Fediverse is still limted cuz it is not private, and still has moderator.

  Remember, Freedom can't exist without Privacy.

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  • dooger_chogany@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No space on the internet was ever private. But it is even less private with Lemmy as it stands because even your voting history can be determined by others running their own instance.

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    • woshang@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mean, that depends on how you categorize privacy rights. If I am wrong, feel free to correct me.
      From my understanding, 100% private means secret, things that are only known by yourself.

      But what if we want to release some of them to the world but make sure we don't expose our identity?
      To me, that somehow falls under the category of privacy rights as well.

      And you know what? Using a decentralized social platform like WireMin gives you the private space you are talking about.

      It has DM, Chat space, Feed for blog post (everything is E2EE, so pretty private for me)

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    • Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Some spaces approach like 99% private. Tails + encryption for example. Still can't ensure against governments monitoring tor exit nodes but other than that you're pretty well golden.

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• samokosik@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Not surprising imho. Once in a while we will see a fediverse instance which is not sympathetic to authorities and will be seized. Hosting child porn is not that difficult here.

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• eleitl@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Encrypted file systems requiring secrets at mount time can make seizing physical servers harder. It’s more difficult with the cloud hosters, since these likely have an API for law enforcement.

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