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Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network

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Submitted ⁨⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Pro@programming.dev⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44594790

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  • sunth1ef@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This type of thing (+ the AI embedded shenanigans) is what sent me over to Obsidian for personal use.

    Still use Notion a bit for work but I’ve peeled way back on it.

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  • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s worth reading the ycombinator comments on this one.

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    • TurboLag@lemmings.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      In particular, Notion employees are saying that they are not listening to audio from your microphone, but just checking whether other processes in the system are using the microphone. There is a setting to disable this entirely.

      Copy-pasting from the thread:

      1. Notion records audio only during your use of the Meeting Notes feature. Here are the docs: www.notion.com/help/ai-meeting-notes

      2. Notion desktop app has notifications about meetings that ask you if you want to use Meeting Notes, it recognizes this by detecting that your microphone is on (i.e. it does not listen to audio coming from your microphone). This feature is a setting in preferences btw, under Notifications > Desktop meeting detection notification.

      source: I work for Notion

      The Notion desktop app will observe if there is a process running on your computer that is actively using your microphone, such as Zoom.

      I’m using the latest version of the app and I don’t see this setting. I’ve also never seen these meeting notifications. It’s possible that you only get them if you have AI features enabled in your workspace, which I don’t. (I read a while ago that you can email support to ask them to disable it. I wrote a short email, and they replied within a day that it had been done, no questions or push-back.)

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      • scytale@piefed.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Our PMs don't like making things opt-in.

        This reply from one of the employees sums it up.

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  • lemmy_acct_id_8647@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Buried the lead: people actually still use Norton

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    • douglasg14b@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Probably the most blind ignorant take here.

      Their user base is still growing, and given it was at 100 million in 2024. Yeah, people still use notion.

      Idk how one can be this obtuse.

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      • eRac@lemmings.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        They are blind, not obtuse. Norton ≠ Notion.

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  • romantired@shibanu.app ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Oh my God, so what?

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    • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      a note taking app shouldn’t spy on you like that. why is it doing this, and why should we accept it?

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    • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      so it’s ok that I share you watch shit porn and beg for mommy why you jork it?

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