Submitted 3 weeks ago by LodeMike@lemmy.today to rant@lemmy.sdf.org
Its just an instance where tankies can exist in an echo chamber without having to critically think.
If you want you can read some of my comments here and watch these morons make fallacious argument after falacious argument, put words in my mouth, and project some person who makes similarly bad takes which exists inside their head onto me: lemmy.today/comment/17304484
Someone asked you how China doesn’t have freedom of speech, which is what you claimed and are responsible for proving. You responded asking “have you been living under a rock?” This is appealing to “common knowledge” as if it is just widely known and no evidence is required. In a different comment you said all your comments were your own thoughts and not based on US propaganda. Unless you have lived in China and had your freedom of speech violated, you are obviously just repeating racist anti-China propaganda that has no evidence. If there was evidence you would provide it but since you can’t provide what doesn’t exist all you can rely on is the false notion that it-is-known
Someone asked you how China doesn’t have freedom of speech,
That was me lol. Really wish they would have answered this. I was 99% sure it was going to be the debunked claim the winnie the pooh is banned in China
Come back baby we didn’t mean it
Im sorry for what i said when I was dunking
“My Own Worst Enemy” by Lit starts playing
Hexbear would like you to read a book.
“I wasn’t immediately validated when giving my opinion on concepts I have a narrow understanding of such as authoritarianism and technofeudalism, and have therefore decided to remove myself from the entire community to prove I’m right.”
I asked you to define technofeudalism and you just started making things up based on the words “techno” and “feudalism”. Surely it is us that are afraid of critical thinking and having an echo chamber, person that ran away and hid from the replies.
Technofeudalism ia when people who like dancing have a tendency to have beef with other people dancing.
I am very smart
It’s when the dancing people have to give half of their dancing sweats to the DJ.
Didn’t know what feudalism was either.
Fraudalism
Too bad you can’t see all the hexbears roasting you in the comments
How so
I’m not sure exactly what you’re asking, but I assumed since you blocked the instance and you weren’t responding to their comments, you couldn’t see them. However, coming back to this thread I see a response from you so I’m not sure what’s going on
thank you for posting your massive, massive L’s for us all to point and laugh at 🙏
I don’t consider Hexbear to be an “echo chamber.” A true echo chamber, isolating oneself from views that go against someone’s current viewpoints, is only possible if your viewpoint aligns with the dominant views of the society you live in. Communism in the english-speaking internet and world is fringe. Nobody on Hexbear can truly avoid engaging with liberalism as a daily requirement for their existence, everyone has to exist in the outside world and touch grass at some point, be it for work, errands, engaging with friends, family, etc.
What is possible to create an echo chamber around, is blocking off leftist viewpoints. Blocking Hexbear just reduces the chances of yourself running into views that challenge your existing viewpoints. The reason why Hexbear bans liberalism and anti-communist viewpoints is because you can find them anywhere on the English-speaking internet, it gets pushed heavily by mainstream media and permeates discussions even about social reforms like healthcare. Hexbear making a space safe to engage with other communists who just want to hang out doesn’t actually close off viewpoints.
Looking into your comments you linked, you threw around words like “authoritarianism” and “technofeudalism,” without really describing or understanding each. It comes across as you trying to figure out a way to describe a Socialist system that restricts the rights of capital owners in a negative way, without trying to understand why the overwhelming majority of Chinese citizens support their system and believe it to be generally on the right track. I recommend glancing through this Socialism with Chinese Characteristics Study Guide to see how and why the Chinese system works, and why one would support it.
All in all, I think blocking Hexbear if you don’t like echo chambers is actually counter-productive, as you cut yourself off of a large portion of the Leftist userbase on Lemmy, thus restricting what you see to a more narrow subset of generally “progressive liberalism.”
in the west, it’s very hard to get honest/accurate analysis of the chinese system. i really recommend you stop parroting bullshit that you’ve heard and read some marxist/anarchist books on the chinese system post-2004.
(the reason 2004 is chosen is because there was a massive paradigm shift in the country at that time. any book that’s worth reading will cover it)
Alright. This is the response I was wanting. Educate me :)
What would you like to know? I csn recommend books. You will have to read them tho
Read
Socialism With Chinese Characteristics by Roland Boer archive.org/…/socialism-with-chinese-characterist…
Its just an instance where tankies can exist in an echo chamber without having to critically think.
pretty sure this was a tagline previously, lmfao
Fair.
“blocking because tankies told me to touch grass, read Mao and then they called me a liberal and then they sent me a picture of a pig with shit sliding down it’s testicles”
sounds more like you want to exist in an echo chamber that reaffirms your previously held beliefs
but also who cares? do you announce every time you tie your shoes as well?
“I don’t like echo chambers, so I’m going to silence people who disagree with me!”
Its just an instance where tankies can exist in an echo chamber without having to critically think.
Buddy, you’re the one blocking them. You’re not in a position to accuse other people of being in an echo chamber.
watch these morons make fallacious argument after falacious argument
Unlike you, making such sound and well reasoned arguments as “lol no” and “Have you been living under a rock?”
Lol take the L with dignity
And as can be seen from the behaviour of all the .ml’ers in this thread, you really should block that instance as well. They are the same people, just using different accounts to spread their hateful stupidity.
Communism isn’t fascism, and to conflate the two is a serious miscalculation. Communism/socialism are historically worker-centric systems and ideologies, while fascism is best described as capitalism, only when the bourgeoisie needs to employ violent and extreme measures to protect their ownership of private property. As a consequence, communist-led violence is violence against the minority of society, the oppressor capitalist class, while fascist-led violence is against the majority, the working class, as well as the marginalized in society.
I recommend reading Blackshirts and Reds.
I recommend you read up how communism actually worked, how oppressive of a regime it was and how many people died because of it. And yeah, communism is just as bad as fascism.
I’m pretty sure last time I read a thing you sent me and replied, you just told me to read more things.
Got to cultivate that echo chamber
Horseshoe theory isn’t real lol
Does this mean that being willing to eradicate people for the greater good of humanity (far left) is not the same as being willing to eradicate people for the greater good of a secular minority (far right)?
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
If you had any self-awareness at all you’d have died of embarassment by now
Oh hey! It’s the guy who thinks posting videos of Uyghurs is how you dunk on Hexbear, without even knowing what Xinjiang is, then accuses us of not critically thinking :o
I just didn’t know the name.
Well, exactly.
Do you not agree it’s a bit silly to suggest mocking people for their view of an issue, when you don’t know the basic facts of said issue?
Idiot
Oh no! Did those scary ideas that conflict with US State Dept propaganda hurt your little bitty ego? Did you not get the pat on the head you expected for your bold, ‘approved by the neoliberal order’ takes you so graciously bestowed upon Hexbear? Lmfao.
Congrats! We’re all so happy for you! Extremely well done!
Look at them g| when someone posts tank man hexbear.net/post/4445712?scrollToComments=false
Looks solid to me
Free thought, or aimlessly contrarian?
You could pretty much swap in flat Earth theory here and it would still make perfect sense.
I could swap in Humorism into there and it still would make perfect sense.
Need more bait posts like this to help expand my blocklist, just got so many. Thanks OP!
Got to cultivate that echo chamber
We wouldn’t want you to be exposed to any viewpoints outside the Western propaganda cannon, that would be too much intellectual effort
Yeah cause .ml and .hexbear are toootally not propaganda echo chambers.
Right? Filter out enormous swathes of obnoxious shitheads from your feed in one fell swoop!
And here I am, back again, adding more blocks to the list lmao. Goddamn I love this, their brigading makes it so easy to block them, they just gather themselves all in one place for you, EZPZ.
No guys, Hexbear TOTALLY doesn’t brigade threads, whaaaaat?
I’m shocked that Redditorsstill haven’t learnt how Federation works.
Well not that shocked
I blocked the instance a long while ago. Not because of divergent views, but because I didn’t find myself stimulated by their overall culture and communication style. Other than that, live and let live.
Eh.
I’d agree with “Live and let live” if they didn’t also obviously all come and harass me here, and have a modicum of good faith in my arguments.
The key is to get yourself instance banned from there, and I believe they will no longer see your posts or comments on other instances.
It’s so funny how defensive and upset ml users are here
Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
-Complains about “echo chambers”
-Blocks comm because of diverging views
classic
LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
No I blocked it because it’s an echo chamber. Are you able to read? Did you see what I said in this post?
Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 3 weeks ago
I mean you’re welcome to post a competing view and argue it competently from an intelligent well reasoned position grounded in fact… you haven’t done that though, and your complaining that people who have done that who are refuting your hot air are an “echo chamber”.
It’s like going onto a maths forum and saying 0.99999…≠1 and then having multiple people show proofs in various different ways to show you that infact 0.999999=1 and you blocking the maths forum and calling it an echo chamber.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Sounds like you want it to be an echo chamber.
GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 2 weeks ago
When everyone agrees on a fact its cause its a fact