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Do you trust Xi with your 'private' browsing data? Apple and Google app stores still offer China-based VPNs.

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Pro@programming.dev⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.techtransparencyproject.org/articles/spot-check-apple-and-google-still-have-a-chinese-vpn-problem

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  • febra@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As someone living in Europe I’m more concerned with American companies harvesting my data.

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    • percent@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Just curious: Why would you prefer your data to be harvested in China vs. the US?

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      • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Because the US is worse in every quantifiable way

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      • eskimofry@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        thats not what they said did they? they said they are more concerned about American companies harvesting their data as they live in Europe and don’t have as much affinity to China.

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      • febra@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Because China doesn’t have as much influence in Europe as the US does. Besides that, there’s a higher chance of US companies sharing data with European governments than Chinese companies doing so.

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  • Libra@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh no, China is stealing your data! Wait, America is also stealing your data and you don’t care? Hmm.

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  • pinkapple@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do you trust the NSA, ICANN, IANA (all headquartered in the USA) etc and that SSL/TLS cert authorities haven’t been backdoored to hell and back? (Probably a decade+ since top level cert authorities were found to be backdoored but who cares amirite.)

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  • mke@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    About as much as I trust the yanks.

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  • mesitoispro@ttrpg.network ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do you trust Trump with your ‘private’ browsing data? Apple and Google app stores still offer American-based VPNs.

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  • Zerlyna@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    it can’t be worse that what DOGE has done.

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  • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So, trust your VPN service. Makes sense.

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  • b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Who cares if China has your data?

    If you give your data to America, you’re definitely going into the Palantir AI tech so you can get drone striked in your bedroom for not jerking off to your Donald Trump pic for the correct number of strokes.

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  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What’s China going to do with your data? Far less than your own country can.

    If the choice is between China and your own country, China every day.

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    • stephen01king@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That is until they have enough data to be able to sabotage a major part of your country’s infrastructure and use it as a bargaining chip to exploit your country, then it won’t be less damage. Its just theoretical, but we know that’s one of the reason any country collect data from another country’s citizens.

      Just weigh the risks every time instead of defaulting to a position of China all the time.

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      • DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I don’t see a problem here. Capitalism has already done this. At least they have competition.

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      • Pirate@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        China hasn’t revealed itself to be Cthulhu at every possible opportunity, unlike the US or Russia. So for me yes, it’s China at every turn unless a local option exists.

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    • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      But that’s not the choice

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      • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You don’t think it is, but yeah it pretty much is. The only VPN company I know of who has proven in court that they don’t keep logs is PIA.

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  • superniceperson@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Sincerely, what is China going to do with it? Open a Chinese bank account in my name? If any institution in the us accepts account openings from a chinese or vpn ip address then it cant be trustworthy enough to ever affect me.

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    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Same as American companies. Send you targeted ads and news articles to influence your world view as a form of new soft power.

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  • jjlinux@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How are the Chinese data hoarders providing g your information to the government any worse than the US ones doing the same? VPNs are only a small part of the full arsenal needed for obfuscating your identity, and the nationality of any of them is irrelevant, as pretty much all governments are gathering data from them.

    I don’t trust Chinese VPNs, and I don’t trust American VPNs, or Russian, or Israeli. I feel somewhat safer with. Mullvad or Proton VPNs, and even then, they are worthless of you’re relying only on VPNs.

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  • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yes I do

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  • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    you can move onto proxies, or even host your own, but thats going to cost money.(yea thats what the of ACCOUNTS, AND LINK FARMING accts use on reddit these days). VPn is way to compromised and abused already.

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  • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No.

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