Is there a point in the Dark Souls games where you're too high level to be expected to be summoned by anyone?

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• Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  DS1/2, yes

  DS3/Elden Ring, no

  Sekiro, I wish

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  • propitiouspanda@lemmy.cafe ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

    How come the issue doesn’t exist in Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring?

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    • Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨30⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      They nerf you if you join in on a much lower leveled friend. The issue doesnt exactly exist on DS1/2 either, as by now there are players of all levels. You’ll just get different match ups.

      DS3 won’t match you with invasions that are far from your level either, but you can play with friends if any level with a password.

      Elden Ring also matches you near level but you are adjusted to be near the host and invasions also play off multiple other factors so you aren’t RL20 invading someone on NG++. Its probably the most complex of the soulslikes so far with the matchmaking.

      Bloodborne had something too but I dont remember cause I dont have a PlayStation or emulator :(

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• NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Different games have different rules for how summoning works. If memory serves, Dark 2 was the “worst” because it was fully based on soul memory and you may have even incremented that by wiping without spending? Whereas I think Dark 3 was a mix of highest upgrade level for gear on you combined with Soul Level?

  In general? When the game is new or having a community wide resurgence, no. There will always be someone who is SL200 in newbie village. When the game is older and not played regularly, yes. There are various sites (never trust fandom or fextralife) that list recommended level ranges but as long as you aren’t actively grinding more than a level or two extra per region, you are fine.

  All that said? Be VERY careful about playing any of the PC Dark Souls games online because they are mostly abandoned by From. I believe the outright RCE was fixed but you can still have your game ruined. www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-XFIfmJ2T8 is a great video on the topic.

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  • Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You are partly correct about DS2. It did increment even by wiping without spending the souls, but on the other hand the ranges involved meant that there was very likely always someone in range.

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• simple@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They improved it over time, if you're using a password you can play without level limits in DS3 and Elden Ring. You'll still be nerfed if your level is higher though.

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• Doodleschmit@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If I recall correctly it sorta changes over the course of the games. I think DS1 was primarily focused on character level, or souls spent on levels, while DS2 had a separate tracking system based on how many souls you have collected in total. Can’t speak too much on DS3 though.

  For DS1 and DS2 at least, you definitely can climb those ranks to the point it’s difficult to find someone else that’s online and in your bracket, yeah.

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