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philanthropicoctopus@thelemmy.club to selfhosted@lemmy.world
These are for ten years on a 1.1111b xyz domain
Godaddy $17 (unsure if includes protection) Dynadot $11.50 (with whois protection) Xyz $19.90 (with whois protection)
Its all very confusing. I just want to get a domain for my server as cheap as
Just moved from Gandi to a local one. Bill went from like €70 to €12 for a single .com! I used to love Gandi and recommend them but over half a decade they went so expensive for some reason
Same for me, I quit when I saw my bills incrinsing a lot and I found very good and cheap one ( planethoster ).
I tried signing up and they wanted a copy of photo ID or something ridiculous. Noped out of there. Is that just a UK thing or what?
I think ID for new customers is widespread now because of the growth of scams. I enrolled at Porkbun from the US a number of years ago without ID (before they started asking for it) and they haven’t asked me for it retroactively, so I don’t think it’s required, it’s just something they do as an anti-scam measure. I’ve never tried for a UK or other national domain from them.
samc@feddit.uk 15 hours ago Nominet manages the .UK domain, and they’re a bit funny about proof of residence. Not sure I had to give Porkbun any photo ID, but the did temporarily suspend my domain. Took forever to clear up.
IMO the moral if the story is avoid ccTLDs (though now I have it I’m sticking with it for as long as I can).
If you want the cheapest, go with Cloudfare. They guarantee to ask for the wholesale price, which is the price the registrar pays to the top level domain owner, so you can’t go lower without footing the bill.
What most of registrars do is foot the difference for the first year, so you get a domain for super cheap, then add 50%+ cut on top, so you pay i.e 5$ for the first year for a TLD that has wholesale cost of 10$, while they loose 5$ on that sale, and then you pay 25$ for the second, so they now gain 15$ on holding your domain hostage.
Cloudfare guarantees that they will sell you that domain for 10$, and only raise it when the TLD owner raises the price.
I’m not aware of any other registrar that guarantees wholesale prices.
If you want to get the best deal, buy your first yeae with the scammy registrar, i.e get the 5$ sale on Namecheap, and before the year is up transfer it to Cloudfare so you don’t pay extra for the second year and can continue with the wholesale price.
Redjard@reddthat.com 12 hours ago Issue is you are locked into the cloudflare system that is gradually enshittifying. Apparently NS changes are blocked, so you are stuck with them. This is not the case for other registrars.
Also for .com they are below wholesale, so they are banking on that enshittification.
philanthropicoctopus@thelemmy.club 14 hours ago Thank you for a detailed and thoughtful reply.
I think I just don’t know enough about this. I like the xyz 1.1111b because its $1 a year. But I have no idea what type of things I need to consider before buying one
I thought it was basically just buying a URL name but it seems its more complex than that
Redjard@reddthat.com 12 hours ago xyz get you on renews, it’s a scam. Once you are set up with the domain and it’s hard to switch, prices explode. This is enforced as tld pricing.
Add that you can also pre-purchase quite a few years, (up to 9?) to lock in their rock bottom price.
Try porkbun
When I tried Porkbun, they asked me for selfie+ID before I could buy a domain there. I think is a random flag, but just a heads up.
Try tld-list.com for comparisons.
They don’t seem to be very accurate, or check availability… Amazon.com for ~$5 ?
You can .onion for 100% free, but it’ll be really slow and only people with the right browser would be able to visit your site
Redjard@reddthat.com 16 hours ago xyz isn’t that cheap (and shady (in reputation and pricing practices)), you might wanna pick a better tld.
I don’t see a wholesale price so it’s hard to judge with certainty, but xyz might be around 14$/y. Dynadot is selling .com at a loss, so I assume they do the same for xyz. Don’t use them, they will make that money off you some other way.
Wholesale for .com and .org is 11$; I recommend njal.la who charge 15$ and for those 4$ add the by far best privacy available for domain registration.
For a cheap reliable tld, maybe .eu is a good pick. From the looks, the wholesale price is 0, so legitimage registrar’s costs can get very low. .eu only allows non-profit registrars.
exu@feditown.com 9 hours ago Do note that njalla isn’t a real registrar like all others. With normal registrars you are the legal owner of a domain name and your registrar has to follow ICANN rules. If you rent through njalla they own the domain and can do whatever they want with it.
Redjard@reddthat.com 1 hour ago Yes, they do have a contract with you, and do have phenomenal reputation, but they are a second entity with technical ability to take your domain, in addition to the regular registrar they run through.
In practice their status and contract with that partner probably makes it less likely your domain will be taken for for example legal reasons, compared to a typical registrar end-user contract.
Cloudflare sells domains at wholesale prices. Protection included.
Toribor@corndog.social 14 hours ago I like and use Cloudflare but it’s worth mentioning you must use their dns for domains you purchase from them.
I dunno about an xyz domain specifically but njal.la has good privacy protection with domains starting at 15€ annually.
Cloudflare has the cheapest prices and the fastest DNS record changes there is no reason to use anyone else.
Redjard@reddthat.com 16 hours ago cloudflare sells below cost, so expect to be nagged by “features” and have trouble e.g. using your own nameservers to get away from them.
Also they don’t sell the truly cheap stuff like .eu because they’re not nonprofit.
For .xyz they do make a good compromise, but xyz itself is a bad choice to start with.
Cloudflare won’t even allow you to use your own nameserver. Avoid them like the plague.
valar@lemmy.ca 14 hours ago
Just to go against the grain here, fuck Cloudflare. They are too big a part of the internet already.
motruck@lemmy.zip 7 hours ago
Agreed. I don’t trust them at all and hate how much stuff uses them.
lyralycan@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Them and Amazon Web Services. Every single “83c92b227da1a9e337ef305b1f99f42418af47e96edb2960d01a7ed26d35eec.us-east-1.prod.service.minerva.devices.a2z.com” and “awstrack.me” URL. They’re so heavily integrated.