Looking to upgrade my NAS need advice.

Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨selfhosted@lemmy.world⁩

So currently I am running a 4 bay Synology DS423+. I’ve upgraded it to have 32gb ram and a 10g network port. I am looking to upgrade to something with more bays like 12+. I was looking at the DS2422+ since it is 12 bays and I could transfer my ram from my current synology to it.

Now if I build one myself something I’ve never done is it easy to just move my storage over and not lose any data and be able to access it? I am running 4x 12TB in raid 5 in my current. It’s mainly my backup, plex files and also running qbit and tautulli. I saw some people recommend 45homelab HL15 would that be a good swap?

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remon@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Now if I build one myself something I’ve never done is it easy to just move my storage over and not lose any data and be able to access it?

Yes, but you can’t just plug the HDDs into the new machine like you would when switching to another synology. You’ll have to copy the data to your new machine.

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- farcaller@fstab.sh ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  That’s not exactly true, synology doesn’t do anything you can’t access from an off the shelf linux (it’s your usual mdraid and btrfs). But you better know what you’re doing if you go that route.
  
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- just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Correct. Youll need to have a new disk array up and running to copy all your data to first on the new NAS.
  
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- ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Okay then I’d have to buy 4 more 12TB drives to transfer it all over. Good to know.
  
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  - BombOmOm@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Since you are looking to build up to 12 bays, what you can do is buy that 4x 12TB drive set now, transfer everything over to the new system, then add the old 12TB drives into the array one-by-one expanding it to an 8x 12TB array.
    
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  - anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Might also look at larger drives. When I compared 3.5’’ drives then the 24TB is cheaper per terabyte than both 16TB and 12TB. The ones I compared are listed below:
    Seagate Exos X24 Harddisk ST24000NM002H 24TB 3.5" Serial Attached SCSI 2
    Seagate Exos X24 Harddisk ST16000NM001H 16TB 3.5" Serial ATA-600 7200rpm
    Seagate IronWolf Harddisk ST12000VN0008 12TB 3.5" SATA-600 7200rpm
    
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- korn@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I created an Xpenology VM inside my new Unraid server and copied my files with 10Gbps internally.
  
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tychosmoose@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
For DIY consider a setup that supports ECC RAM to help prevent corruption. Any good server motherboard should do.

Unraid is pretty easy to get going on. That’s probably the direction I would take in your situation.

Also, if you’re not doing 3-2-1 backup now might be a good time to consider an off-site backup plan. That 4-bay Synology at a friend’s house with a VPN path would be an option for critical data. You could give them some partitioned space on there and on your new NAS to compensate for the power usage. Setup Borg or Restic and it’ll be encrypted on the remote NAS, and benefit from incremental and dedupe to minimize bandwidth usage.

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philpo@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Just a few considerations:

For a 12 bay NAS I would strongly consider ZFS - which makes ECC more or less a must.

Mainboard wise the CWK AMD Board is worth a consideration, and so is the Asrock Live Mixer B850 if you want ECC on AMD5

A popular build option is using a cheap used or “Chinese” host-build controller as SATA ports are hard to get these days.

I would personally look at using Proxmox and then TrueNAS as an NAS OS and simply passthrough the HBA.

Another alternative would be using a Zimbra Board and use their expansion options - but that comes with downsides in terms of CPU power and no ECC.

For Plex it might be favourable to use a CPU with a built-in GPU for transcoding. Intel is slightly better here, but has other downsides, especially if you want ECC

Get a Geekworm PiKvm, a original PiKVM, a NanoPi oder JetKVM…or something like that. it’s worth it.

If you don’t feel like self-building anymore have a look at the Ugreen. They come without the “only approved HDDs” Synology bullshit, allow you to install your own OS and are fairly capable. But sadly they do not support ECC. (And they aren’t really cheaper than self building at least not in central Europe.)

Self building is absolutely possible and we are here to help you.
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- ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Thank you for all the info. I am running plex off an intel nuc my NAS is just storing all the files for it. So cpu for the actual NAS can be either or tbh.
  
  And I think I’m going to self build and search more on here for what other people did and for any more questions I may have!
  
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