Microsoft CEO says up to 30% of the company's code was written by AI | TechCrunch

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• KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “Written by software” does not inherently mean AI.

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  • petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella said that 20% to 30% of code inside the company’s repositories was “written by software” — meaning AI.

    Nadella gave the figure after Zuckerberg asked roughly how much of Microsoft’s code is AI generated today.

    I highlighted part of the article for you.

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  • urandom@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Code generators being a prime and ancient example

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  • Bongles@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I vaguely remember talk about companies like Google having software that fixes/writes code and that was ages before LLMs.

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• vane@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If they start with those products today with zero marketing budged and zero user base nobody would use it. Those CEOs are just clowns.

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  • RagingRobot@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Even worse, whenever a good new technology does pop up they buy it and ruin it.

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• Teknikal@eviltoast.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Windows is 95 percent pure bloat now imo, an os just needs to handle my hardware and launch my programs anything else is just eating my resources.

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  • misteryscience@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t need any assistance from anything while my phasers and quantums aren’t doing anything. I don’t need AI doing anything when I finally get the proper setup for crashing a Tomcat into a big old mountain that only a fool would miss. I don’t need any bloat while I’m ripping off an old cartoon character for a D&D campaign.

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• hubobes@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  50% of my code is written by Intellisense…

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• MTK@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  We can tell

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• superkret@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Honestly, I’m not surprised.

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• davidagain@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Satya Nadella has given an evasive answer there and both Zuckerberg and the journalists have been taken in.

  It is common in programming languages that have a lot of boilerplate to use code generation, where you take some information about data and generate code automatically, like code that translates data between formats (for example reading and writing xml for saving to disk or json to send over the network). Being very routine to write and easy to deduce logically from other information, this process has been automated for years and years, long before AI existed.

  Microsoft’s flagship software such as operating systems, office software, is unbelievably vast and complex, far beyond the complexity of most business software, and has been developed over decades. They absolutely have not replaced 30% of their code since the very recent advent of useful AI. I can believe that 30% of it is automatically generated, but not by AI.

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• Tungsten5@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Well that explains a lot

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• Zink@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Eww. Maybe it’s not really true and Microsoft just wants to remind us that big corporate AI is so legit that all the software you use all day was “helped” by it.

  But really for me the issue is the company, not the AI. If I read an article about AI generated code making it into the Linux kernel or some gnu/kde/etc utilities, I don’t think I would worry much because those changes will be reviewed by cranky old nerds who care about the functionality of the software first. I have no such confidence in Microsoft’s processes.

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• Reygle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They’re attempting to make excuses for their inability to create functional software

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  • megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They’re lying about using AI to write software, they probably have required all their programmers to have an AI plugin installed, and are thus counting any code they make as “written by AI”, and then are counting any minor edit to existing code as the entire thing being “written by AI”.

    The software is bad because it’s written to serve the infinite growth imperative. The reason they claim they’re writing code with AI is because that being true is the only hope that they have for achieving the infinite growth imperative. It’s a con, it’s a cult, they are extracting as much value as they can before everything falls apart.

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• tehn00bi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How much of Linux is?

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  • bhamlin@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If you count all of my contributions, 0%.

    None of my contributions have been included. I am a terrible programmer.

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• Antaeus@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Copilot. Piloting you towards effortless bugs, and with all the telemetry, we don’t need to test our patches and updates. You, the user are doing that for us. Sincerely, Microsoft.

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• kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  ??? No it’s not! Can investors sue because this is such an obvious lie? Pls I have 0.3 Microsoft shares

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  • kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Are they including code generated to test their own models capability maybe?

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• finitebanjo@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yikes

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• randon31415@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Wonder how much of Windows 10 was written by Stack Exchange?

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• sunglocto@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Not suprised

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• andallthat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Fun fact: Nadella has been replaced with an AI agent a couple of months ago and still nobody has noticed. “Copilot, while I’m away, generate bs on AI adoption and fire a bunch of employees, ok?”

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• Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Year of the Linux desktop

  (Amusing sidenote: my autocomplete’s first suggestion after ‘Linux’ was ‘propaganda’.)

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  • chilicheeselies@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I think it might actually start coming to fruition now that a lot of games have native support.

    One of the only things stopping me from taking the plunge at this point is laziness to soft through all my data and make sure what i need is backed up before firmatting (i know, i need a good backup solution; open to suggestions here)

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• Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  If this were true there would massive databreaches. AI is really bad at keeping private keys private. Not to even mention the default credentials it would use because it doesnt have commen sense to change them

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  • PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I disagree. It feels like your making this assumption from the point of view that people using AI to develop turn their whole brain off and let AI take the wheel. Any dev I know using AI uses it as a time saving measure, i.e. advanced autocomplete, or to assist with troubleshooting as a form of advanced search engine. Also you would have no need to give the AI the actual key itself, at most you would give it the title of the variable the key is saved as. Also major companies tend to have fail safes in place in their pipelines checking to see if private codes are ever made public and then they just change the code.

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    • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I find it hard to believe because I work at an adjacent company who has made similar claims and it is complete bullshit.

      I do think there is some about of “AI provided a smart complete and the developer hit ‘tab’ to take the changes” equalling “this code was written by AI” in some metrics that go to the execs. And since the execs mandated high AI use everyone is fine just saying they have high AI use regardless of how true it is.

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  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Likely a lot of manpower were focused on that, and/or the employees rather wrote their own code then lied about the AI use (heard a lot about it).

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• RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And its all Teams.

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• spicehoarder@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Are they including stuff written by intellisence and boiler plate for legacy code?

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• drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  They include tab complete of github copilot which is often as much as a single dot. Same thing they’ve done with all github copilot stats.

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• Mio@feddit.nu ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And how many times was all that code rewritten?

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• Nighed@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Would be interesting to see how they measured that metric. Are they tagging individual lines as AI generated?

  What those lines are too would be interesting,AI as auto complete is less dangerous than complete generation, but probably also less dangerous.

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  • MimicJar@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    AI as auto complete is exactly what I was thinking.

    I’ve seen lots of cases where AI appears as an auto complete suggestion and I can just hit <TAB> and it finishes the current line. It’s essentially filling in the boilerplate text. Heck in some cases it isn’t even right, but it’s close enough that I can change a few values.

    I also want to point out that this isn’t particularly new technology. This existed before AI. It has perhaps expanded more, but it isn’t a revolutionary improvement, it’s an incremental one. So when we talk about usefulness, I think it is actually more useful.

    Now if it could do all the magic planning and thinking, that would be more useful, but we’re not there yet.

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• tal@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hope that that’s inclusive of something like lines of documentation.

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• Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Is the part that handles images in word

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• SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Does that mean that Microsoft shares are gonna crash?

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• Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Sure as hell feels like it!

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