Submitted 11 months ago by pseudo@jlai.lu to fediverse@lemmy.world
I’ll bring you straight into my mind: I was scrolling throught the n-th depressing post of the day hour and I thought “If I answer that post/comment by #negativity, will other people be able to filter out this content using my answer?” If not, how could we build some sort of blocklist for people to curate there experience on the fediverse.
I know I can block key word like “politics” “Trump” “Elon” but sometimes it doesn’t have a precised word yet use human can categorise it easily.
I can think of 3 easy ways to do it off the top of my head... all using PieFed. (1) Straight-up filtering of keywords, which allows All, None, or Some; (2) user customizable and shareable Feeds, so someone creates a good collection and everyone benefits; (3) the entire model of browsing content using PieFed is different: by offering more than simply Subscribed vs. All, you can do something like not subscribe to any political or news communities (i.e. have your cake), so that it doesn't show up in your Subscribed feed, but then when you want to read that content, it is a click away in the News and Politics Feed (or another similar one of your choice made by you or other users; i.e. eat your cake too).
Using Lemmy though, no not really (not "trivially" I mean). Search for people using ad blocking filters, possibly Ublock. Maybe an app would help? But I don't know which ones and kinda doubt it - I haven't seen such a thing in Voyager or Thunder or Interstellar, etc. Development of the Lemmy codebase, in the highly difficult Rust language, is super slow. Basically if you want something like this, you'd have to code it yourself.
A workaround could be to make several Lemmy alts - one for each type of content you would want to include in your Subscribed feed. Like one could be only uplifting news. Most of the time you'd be looking at the same older content though... without being able to widen your view that would allow bringing in of new content.
Or again, PieFed already has multiple forms of it.
A workaround could be to make several Lemmy alts - one for each type of content you would want to include in your Subscribed feed. Like one could be only uplifting news. Most of the time you’d be looking at the same older content though… without being able to widen your view that would allow bringing in of new content.
I’m already doing that but I was looking for a collaborative way to build a common browsing experience by filtering out. PieFed’s feeds are great, I love them but they are working by selecting not filtering.
Yes and moreover, feeds work at the community level, not individual posts. Which is a step in the right direction but you may want finer-grain control. Filters may offer more what you are looking for in that case.
I did not mention previously but PieFed also allows you to block all users from a user-specified instance, without requiring admin approval to perform full defederation. It is not perfect but it is very good and e.g. I use it to block Lemmy.ml, which saves me a lot of headaches as most of the worst, most argumentative and unfriendly (and batshit insane) comments I've seen come from there. Lemmy's instance filter is horribly misnamed - it would have much better been called a community muting, as it blocks communities from that insurance but the users remain free to troll you in communities located in other instances, leaving replies, triggering notifications, etc.
The Lemmy apps Sync and Connect can also block all users from an instance.
It could be a nice idea but the hard part is that we don't have the same sensibility about negativity. But i agree with you, i meet lot users thatqlowered my mood because they weren't happy with the name or title...
A wrote another comment but I couldn’t ping you somehow 👇
It worked ? I received a notification just few minute ago : someone mentionned you. ;)
This idea is quite similar to what Bluesky is doing, with "Labels" https://docs.bsky.app/docs/advanced-guides/moderation.
We'd need some way to crowdsource the verification and validity of the labels so people can't just put low-quality or abusive labels everywhere.
It could potentially reduce the amount of work moderators need to do because spam would be labelled as such by anyone and if a few others also label it the same then it would reach a threshold where the label becomes active.
Does anyone have experience with this way of moderating content on Bluesky? How well does it work in practice?
Yes, this is closer to what I got in mind. I don’t use Bluesky but it seems like a good idea.
What I mean exactly was some way to build a view, or a portal, of the fediverse content when we substrate what we don’t like rather than adding it. It may take the form of label or another form. I may take a form of something close to a community or a feed throught which people browsing may get rid of content that doesn’t match the view of the "portal they are surfing on.
I don’t think @Snoopy@piefed.social it has to be unique. Just like we have multiple !aww community we could have a !nodowner !positivity !nonegativity portals all living along each other present each a slightly different view of the fediverse.
Didn't know that blsky has such feature. Very interesting idea thank for sharing :)
So that mean we could decide some option per label like this :
- gore > text only, remove picture
- nudity > do nothing
- porn > hide
- positive > promote
Or even set up the threehold :
- gore > hide if 10 users voted
As for the crowdsource verification, that may join my idea for a mediation team where they browse, class content.
I'm activating your bell since i'm curious of bluesky experience too. :)
FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
I don’t agree with this particular usecase. Because I’ve personally experienced, people who shun “negativity” meaning they just completely ignore people’s suffering which often adds a devastating layer of invisibility to oppression. But probably hopefully this isn’t your case.
But anyways, I do agree that blocklists are probably a feature that lemmy needs.
pseudo@jlai.lu 11 months ago
I don’t see this a the main way to access Lemmy or the fediverse in general but as a way to curate my browsing experience. Sometimes, I’ve got enough of all the negativity, sometimes I ask myself why I’m watching that many cat and dog pictures, sometimes I’ve got enough to hear about the last big blockbuster that I don’t plan to watch. It doesn’t mean I want to permanently isolate myself to such content.
PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I hear you. I don’t know about the rest of the apps, but Voyager has a fairly robust set of filter options. I regularly block things for non-dramatic reasons (like I just have zero interest in a specific subject that gets a lot of posts).
I’m not sure about using Lemmy through a web browser and what options that affords.