Proton will no longer post on Mastodon

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• leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Privacy focused company move off privacy respecting service and suggest following them on privacy nightmare service. Are they trying to kill any trust in their own company?

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• Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is unexpected, as they had around 50k subscribers on Mastodon, and mirroring posts is super easy.

  1000% this. It’s easy to mirror, so the idea that “it’s too hard, boo hoo” is cover for something else. Given the recent diatribes by the head, this just seems like more indication that Proton is going to play ball with authoritarians (or at least ultracapitalists, who are bosom buddies with the authoritarians).

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  • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s not just the resources to mirror posts, it’s also the resources to keep up with communicating with the community, answer questions, maintain a positive presence. It’s not trivial.

    I do sort of agree that it’s insane for any privacy company to be emphasizing Reddit over Mastodon. If anything, the limited resources should motivate them shutting down Reddit and keeping Mastodon. But it’s not as totally stupid an explanation as it might seem.

    It’s also notable that Reddit’s features make it a lot easier to communicate with tons of people in a genuine way, with minimal effort (since it’s good at surfacing high-voted comments and letting you engage with those people). As well as making it easy to silence anyone who is saying anything you don’t want them to say, of course.

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    • Telorand@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      it’s also the resources to keep up with communicating with the community, answer questions, maintain a positive presence

      This is a fair point, and I think you came to that thoughtfully. Would that you were in charge of things instead.

      Here’s my counterpoint: they aren’t obligated to stop posting on Mastodon to focus on comments on Reddit or BlueSky or whatever. They can still post wherever they want but make it clear that they will no longer respond to comments on Mastodon; I follow several accounts that do this, explicitly or implicitly. That’s not the choice they made, however.

      They’re supposed to be governed by the Proton Foundation, with the mission: “Our legally binding purpose is to further the advancement of privacy, freedom, and democracy around the world.” But moves like this don’t seem to be in line with that mission, especially when you look at all the options.

      They chose to leave Mastodon and reduce/restrict their online presence, and all the evidence I have seems to point to this being a political move and not merely a strategic one.

      Time will tell if that’s true, but this should raise eyebrows for anyone who cares about data privacy.

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• NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Is this because everyone gave them shit about their CEO’s breathless praise for a tyrant?

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  • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No, they’re just compromised.

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    • admin@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What do you mean?

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• Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Proton the privacy company… “follow us on reddit”?

  I think I’ll cancel my services with them now. Thanks for making it easy. Idiots.

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• Sanctus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  RIP, another one bites the Drumpf

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• lorski@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Glad i left proton.

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• voxthefox@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I think this is the last strike for me, where do you go from Proton, I know for vpns I’ll likely be looking at mullvad, but what about passwords/email/calendar/drive?

  I quite liked the setup for creating individual email addresses per service and used that heavily, which I assume will make this transition painful.

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  • anon@lemmus.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Posteo.de has email, contacts, and calendar. You can use Filen.io for cloud storage.

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  • AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Tuta has catch all addresses, meaning you can create any email on your domain and it will go into your inbox. For passwords, you can’t beat Bitwarden/Vaultwarden. Tuta has a calendar (but I don’t really use it, I use self hosted WebDAV instead). I’ve not needed a cloud drive (I have a NAS and nextcloud) so I can’t really suggest anything for that.

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  • Whooping_Seal@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Passwords I would recommend Bitwarden or KeePass (both of which are in the PrivacyGuides wiki, particularly usefull for KeePass where there are different clients depending on OS)

    Email / contacts / calendar I am still struggling on to be quite honest. I am debating right now on Mailbox.org + EteSync OR just using Posteo.de (while it has some security regressions compared to Mailbox.org, it has encrypted contacts and calendar). To be quite honest though the options available in this space are quite frustrating, it is really hard to find a solution that allows for interoperability / data portability as well as E2EE / elevated security.

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• TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  i wonder if they are getting paid resources to move to reddit/meta only

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• Undertaker@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Now it is easy to decide whether Proton is viable or not. Not their first strike. Hopefully users now know what their philosophy is

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• LucidNightmare@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Awh. Little babies couldn’t handle the heat from their own customers. Good riddance.

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• TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hate how volatile everything is. I think 2025 will be the year we see what companies and countries shake out. It’s too early to see where all the cards will fall.

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• puppinstuff@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I hope they come back. These other platforms are getting enshittier and enshittier by design.

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• RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You guys know you don’t have to follow businesses on social media, right‽ Like, it’s all just different flavors of their own advertisements, and you can just not interact.

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• darkknight@discuss.online ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t use their mail much, but this will get me to switch vpn to mullvad. I just wish the price was similar, proton had some sales to make it fairly cheap.

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• detun3d@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Let’s hope they consolidate their social media presence further and stop posting on most of their other profiles as well.

  It’s their call anyway, as is anyone else’s to keep using their services or not. I don’t think most of these companies’ use of their official social media profiles benefit anyone, and it’s certainly not a meaningful enough news for the echo they’re getting. Anyone truly interested in whatever Proton AG is doing will probably have a Proton account and undoubtedly receive frequent emails from them. Any stunts made by community managers representing them are just ephemeral noise.

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• LucidNightmare@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Can someone recommend a VPN that is GUI like Proton VPN for Linux? Email I’ve seen plenty of so the options are fresh on the mind. Thank you! :)

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  • yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Windscribe

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    • LucidNightmare@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Thank you! I’m going to look into it! :)

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