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Apple turns off iCloud encryption feature in UK following reported government legal order.

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Cat@ponder.cat⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://therecord.media/apple-encryption-feature-off-britain

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  • ftbd@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Uhm this is exactly why you only store already-encrypted data on remote servers

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  • Naich@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So despite all the tough talk, they just roll over and capitulate. The only way to protest this is to move your stuff off Apple.

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    • karl_chungus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Apple’s choices here were:

      1. Do what they did, and remove the feature for the UK only

      2. Create a backdoor into their OS that can potentially be used by not just governments, but bad actors too, effectively crippling security for every single device they sell worldwide and bypassing the usefulness of on-device entirely.

      3. Exit the UK market, which is not realistic and would leave millions of UK customers without any further recourse than to replace their Apple devices, which is incredibly wasteful and expensive (not to mention inconvenient).

      Apple chose the lesser evil. What more could you possibly expect in this situation?

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      • 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
        1. Artificially pull out of UK, by forcing all UK residents to select a different country of residence with a banner as to why UK residents can’t have iPhones, then store all their ADP encrypted data on data warehouses outside of the UK. Then claim that they (Apple) don’t track users and have to trust that users are selecting the correct countries of residence, and that they (Apple) will not allow the UK government to peak into non-UK residents, so they can’t help “sorry (not sorry)”.

        Option 4 is similar to option 3 by telling the government to shove it, but with the very important benefit of still allowing the residents to use their products. It’s (almost) a win win.

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    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      …to less-secure alternatives? Do you really think Google is going to say “no backdoor, we’re keepijg encryption, we don’t need YOUR market”?

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      • Naich@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        To a more secure alternative, obviously. There are other options than Apple and Google.

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      • VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        No? Kinda? I’d say a Pixel (so Google hardware, yeah) with Graphene, and either self-hosted, or independent end-to-end encrypted could storage.

        There are alternatives to the tech conglomerates.

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  • nao@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This is why “privacy” doesn’t work on a closed system controlled by a third party.

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    • karl_chungus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      ….or a government demanding a way in.

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  • maniel@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Google or Facebook should stop using HTTPS there with a big red banner saying WE HAD TO DISABLE ENCRYPTION BECAUSE YOUR GOVERNMENT WANTS TO SEE WHAT YOU DO, THE SIDE EFFECT IS EVERYONE CAN SEE WHAT YOU DO

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    • BlackAura@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      All UK machines, phones, and servers should just remove all root certificates. Can’t trust encryption right?

      X509Brexit.

      Then they wouldn’t have to interact with any part of the encrypted internet.

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      • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Why didn’t you take the obvious: “BreX609it”

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  • astigma@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Apple said users who already had it turned on will be given a period of time to disable it in order to keep using their iCloud accounts, although the length of time was not stated.

    I’m in the UK and have ADP enabled but I am yet to be informed by Apple when/if it will be disabled in the future. I’m glad we had a change in government but this is a serious misstep from Labour.

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    • Ste41th@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Start a petition, I’m sure people will sign it based on how serious this could be for security in general

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      • astigma@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        When was the last time a petition achieved anything? Better off writing directly to your MP. Parliamentary petitions exist purely to allow MPs to ignore the problem as it’s easier to dismiss a few thousand signatures on a petition rather than a few thousand letters stacking up on their desks.

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