A new way to describe the Fediverse and its opposition to Big Tech

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• OpenStars@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  TLDR: just as eating too much processed foods leads to obesity of the body, consuming too much Big Tech processed social media leads to mental rot.

  It would be better to focus on quality ingredients.

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• Kichae@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  the Fediverse may be missing a clear, cohesive narrative.

  I think this is because it’s not a clear, cohesive place. Developers keep trying to make it look like centralized social media, but I don’t think that’s going to work in the end; it certainly isn’t working now. Trying to dress it up as something that it’s not, just because that thing is currently popular with the masses, does nothing but set us up for failure.

  Mastodon is a second rate Twitter, Lemmy is a second rate Reddit, etc. The existing model of trying to make all of this look like one, single, central location is uncanny, and people notice that.

  Lemmy’s got some good theming options, and the templates are there to do custom theming work. There’s the potential for some real website branding there, in that. But if you look at Mastodon, the biggest player in the game right now, the developers go out of their way to homogenize the Mastodon experience. Every Masto website looks fundamentally identical to all of the others. It’s doing everything it can to make it look like “Mastodon” is a place on the Internet, in the same way that “WordPress” is not.

  And that’s a problem. ActivityPub doesn’t really support that fiction.

  Some ideas have been floated around in the microblog space, and tested in some places. Having ‘Local’ be the default timeline has worked out pretty well on Catodon. Strong community theming has kept tenforward.social on topic, with most people there discussing Star Trek. The art-based Masto instances work well, and seem to be fairly sticky. But generic, general “Mastodon” is failing to inspire folks, and lacks the pop culture discussion that the general public wants. Journalists have bounced, due to audience engagement tapering off. Communities of colour keep getting chased off of the big instances.

  Attempts to occupy the “general” space and branch out into niche interests aren’t working. The focus really needs to be shifted back in the other direction.

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• souperk@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  What an interesting read! The food analogy instantly made sense to me, I am wondering if other people had the same experience?

  What is the point of all this, you may wonder? Well, reading Postman provided a big eureka moment for me - an understanding of why I struggle so much to convince my friends to abandon commercial social media in favor of the Fediverse. Drum roll: the Fediverse may be missing a clear, cohesive narrative.

  Technically the Fediverse has everything one would need to enjoy independent social media, away from the surveillance capitalism that powers Big Tech. What has been difficult is finding a story, a simple narrative anyone could follow that would explain WHY the Fediverse is the most empowering, most ethical technological solution out there for social media.

  I have come to see the Fediverse as the equivalent of organic, plant based, home-cooked meals and by contrast I see TikTok, Instagram, X, Threads, Snap and other platforms by Big Tech as the equivalent of Big Food – brands like Coca Cola, McDonalds, Nestlé, that promote ultra-processed, highly addictive foods and beverages, contributing to an epidemic of obesity, type 2 diabetes and other diet-related diseases.

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  • ComradeMiao@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Thanks for the summary! How is the fediverse against surveillance though? Isn’t it easy to scrape data since it’s all public

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    • cabbage@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Check out the app permissions for the Mastodon app vs its competitors, and you'll get an idea.

      Of course, it's not the Fediverse as such - Threads is still surveillance capitalism, even if it gains full AP support. And 3rd party Mastodon apps can track as much as they want. But the Fediverse makes it possible, by not depending on returns on investments.

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