Submitted 5 months ago by trespasser69@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
I feel like they are dropping the ball in the GPU space though, both on desktop and in servers.
And their not really leveraging it. They killed the steam deck line of “small core count, GPU heavy APUs” which is why Valve hasn’t updated it. They all but killed server APUs, making them mega expensive and HPC only. They’re finally coming out with a M-Pro like consumer APU, but it took until 2025, and pricing will probably be a joke just like their Radeon Pro GPUs…
The fact they pulled ROCM support for older cards boggles the mind.
It wouldn’t be possible to dethrone nvidia in AI anyway, at least not alone.
My thought process:
Desktop: I need cost for performance…
Server: fps for the Jellyfin, transcodes for the video god
I’d drop in an old Nvidia GPU for transcoding, anyway. There’s lots of old cards that support nvenc. Don’t neglect the Quadro cards, either. Lots of them will transcode just fine without even needing their own cooling fan.
Transcodes worked vastly better with QuickSync last time I bought a machine.
Does the AMD transcoded work as well these days?
I don’t think so. The Jellyfin documentation still says it sucks lol.
Sad but true. Intel’s performance was poor over the last year. Shuddering thinking about my Mac with Intel CPU, there must be burn victims from this thing. Still, less competition is never a good thing.
Why does desktops lag behind servers which is at 50%??
It’s taken this long for Intel to lose gamer trust.
Intel also have lower power consumption iirc, which is useful for laptops etc.
AMD have the best server chips: www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
You have to remember that most people aren’t “choosing a CPU” as much as buying a PC. If the majority of pre-build retail PCs have Intel, then the majority of purchases will be Intel.
I don’t think Intel is more efficient if their desktops and this one link is anything to go by
cpu-monkey.com/…/cpu_benchmark-cpu_performance_pe…
But I’m not up to date on laptop stuff at all so might be wrong
Servers need very high uptime. Also, when something is documented to work a certain way, it had damn well better work as stated.
Intel had a long reputation of solid engineering. Even when they were losing at both performance and performance per watt, they could still fall back on being steady. The 13th/14th gen degradation problems have shot that argument to hell, and server clients are jumping ship.
Note: I’m not from the US, so in a lot of cases going to a manufacturer’s website and purchasing computers is not an option. Resellers are still the ones in charge here.
I work IT and when it time for a hardware refresh the reseller we are in contact with said they don’t stock AMD as there’s no demand. Which in a way creates a chicken and egg problem. I asked them if it would be possible to get laptops with AMD chips and the reseller said yes but we have to wait. So we bought 4 Intel machines for the meantime and placed a custom order for ones with AMD cheap. The ThinkPads we are buying are significantly cheaper if they come with AMD chips, I was honestly a bit baffled there was no demand. Regardless, we are happy with the purchase and so are the users who claim the computers are relatively cooler to their Intel 8th gen predecessors. It just goes to show that for the most part, enterprise makes a huge chunk of the desktop market share nowadays (as younger generations tend to simply not use a computer and do everything on their phone) and that market just isn’t ready for the transition yet. They’ve been going strong with Intel for about 30-40 years. Weening of that tit is gonna take some time.
Thank you, that was enlightening
Not entirely sure but afaik their EPYC cpus are good.
Businesses make decisions based on money. People make decisions based on vibes.
Except the businesses run by people
When the AI Crash wipes out nVidia’s demand in the server market they’re not gonna have any loyal customers in the desktop market right as the tech boom comes to places formerly reliant on smartphones. Then they’re gonna be like surprised_pikachu.jpg
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 5 months ago
Not surprised. I switched to AMD CPU and GPU about a year ago. Could not be happier. Ryzen sips power and I run mine in Eco mode (since I’m on an air cooler). Performance is still fantastic.
addie@feddit.uk 5 months ago
Invested in a water cooler setup back when I had a Bulldozer chip, which was near essential. Now on a Ryzen, and getting it to exceed about 35 degrees is very difficult. Been very good for long-term stability of my desktop - all the niggling hard disk issues seem to just go away when they’ve not subjected to such thermal cycling any more.
Fantastic chips.