WIRED: Neo-Nazis Are Fleeing Telegram for Encrypted App SimpleX Chat.

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• bufalo1973@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Farewell and fuck off

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  • AbidanYre@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    As a SimpleX user.

    God damnit.

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    • devfuuu@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Infrastructure will always be used by evil and good. If it exists. Just like a road. Normal people use them as well as murderers.

      If a good encryption chat software exists it will be used. It’s necessary for normal privacy and sensitive topics between people but those ones will also use it. Nothing to do about it.

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    • anarchrist@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t really get either of these comments. No one should be using telegram for anything other than a discord clone, and of course the shady turds will gravitate to privacy-focused messaging apps. I mean presumably that’s why the turds chose telegram initially, they just fucked up the due diligence and thought telegram was secure because they credulously believed the founder dude who folded under state pressure.

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    • todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You are surprised that the darkweb chat client has Nazis on it?

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• Phineaz@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t mean to imply anything, but this post was listed maybe one scroll away from the piracy community welcoming everyone to SimpleX. Unfortunate timing.

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  • Paradox@lemdro.id ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    But certainly not coincidental

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• MrPoopbutt@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How does simplex compare to signal?

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  • ParetoOptimalDev@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No identifiers.

    To deliver messages, instead of user IDs used by all other platforms, SimpleX uses temporary anonymous pairwise identifiers of message queues, separate for each of your connections — there are no long term identifiers.

    simplex.chat/#how-simplex-works

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    • jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      So then how do you pair with a connection? Do you send them (out of band like through email or something) some kind of key that they then accept? That sounds super annoying.

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    • EngineerGaming@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      For me, the main distinction is selfhostability (although I have concerns about the majority keeping using the default servers, I could still ask a friend or family member to use mine).

      Also I am a bit concerned about them pushing the “No identifiers” thing which seems misleading, since you’re still identified, just per-conversation.

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• celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  All encrypted apps are one strong-arm subpoena away from sharing their logs with law enforcement.

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  • semperverus@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    signal.org/bigbrother/cd-california-grand-jury/

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• dinckelman@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Neo-nazis, or any kind of fascists, have no space anywhere. They can fuck off to the next platform, but they can’t run forever

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• Vitaly@feddit.uk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Why are they moving from telegram?

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  • Lanusensei87@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    researchers found that in the wake of the arrest of Telegram founder Pavel Durov and charges against leaders of the so-called Terrorgram Collective, dozens of extremist groups have moved to the app SimpleX Chat in recent weeks over fears that Telegram’s privacy policies expose them to being arrested.”

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    • leds@feddit.dk ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Telegram has been supplying US government with data on its users

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