Submitted 2 months ago by dragnucs@lemmy.ml to selfhosted@lemmy.world
I want to setup a camera monitoring for my house and some rooms. I need to bee able to view the cameras remotely and and also do recording if possible. I could find some camera brands like dahua cams but having briefly tested them they. Seem to rely on acwmtralized cloud and proprietary visualization software.
What are you recommendation? This is not a professional setup I would at max have 3 cameras.
I remember ZoneMinder.
A full-featured, open source, state-of-the-art video surveillance software system.
Is this still a thing nowadays?
Zoneminder was cool when it was the only game in town, but didn’t it “save” videos as a folder of JPEGs of frame grabs?
It used to, but it’s had the option to save an actual video for a long time now.
Yes and no. You can capture frames, stream the output to the local OS or export the feed to be embedded in a website if you like.
Their code repository is still active. So worth giving a look.
Yes absolutely.
It would be best if I don’t have to create an account or install a proprietary app to perform the initial setup.
I still haven’t found any AMCrest camera being sold near me. I found some Hikvison.
Reolink / AMCrest - no internet required, can be setup offline AND have a WebUI that allows full control over all functionality. Check the details of specific models, may vary a bit.
… NO internet required, no apps, nothing.
Wifi cams can be jammed. Lorex wired cameras and zoneminder with a tailscale VPN setup.
lorex.com/…/1080p-8-channel-1tb-wired-dvr-system-…
wiki.zoneminder.com/Dummies_Guide
If you don’t trust tailscale you’ll have to get some sort of ddns for wireguard and punch through your router
Let me know if you want further context.
I second the idea of a VPN instead of directly exposing devices or software to the internet. Requires more work and learning but it’s more secure. I would argue that well-known VPNs are more scrutinized and pentested than any camera software ever.
I second Zoneminder, used it at a job way back in the day and it was solid.
The cheapest way I found was getting some TP-Link Tapo cameras that have RTSP and Onvif, and run them under frigate.
Set them up in the app, cloud and all, then add them to your frigate, now block internet for them.
Those cameras are anywhere from 25 to around 50 dollars each. Best bang for the buck I could find.
demo.scrypted.app is the new kid on the block. Intuitive interface, easy to configure, not free, great system.
I don’t see any source code at their docs. Can you point me to them?
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
| Fewer Letters | More Letters |
|---|---|
| IP | Internet Protocol |
| NVR | Network Video Recorder (generally for CCTV) |
| PoE | Power over Ethernet |
| VPN | Virtual Private Network |
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Good bot
I’m working on one called Soteria. It’s still early in development, but I’m focusing on both privacy and cloud availability.
It uses any WebDAV store to upload footage, but it’s designed to work best with my own WebDAV server Nephele. This lets it upload footage to any S3 compatible blob storage, end to end encrypted.
That way if your cameras go offline, you can watch the last footage they were able to upload.
Like I said, it’s in early development, so it’s not yet ready to use, but I’m going to be putting more work into it soon and try to get it to a place where you can use it.
It works with any V4L2 compatible camera, so laptops, webcams, and Raspberry Pi cameras should all work.
What camera hardware is compatible with Soteria?
Any camera that uses the V4L2 system on Linux. So, mostly webcams.
One important note is that IP cams are not supported yet, but I’d like to add support for them.
Frigate has been great, I’ve run it for years now.
That works until the battery puffs up and cracks the screen. Phones don’t last long when plugged in 24/7. Also keep in mind that WiFi cameras can easily be jammed.
Good way to reduce ewaste.
I tried this in the past and it does not seem a good option. Letting a smartphone record 24/7 would make it melt maybe.
MotionEye used to be the go-to solution.
I am not sure about the current state of the project (the python 2/3 transition took a long while, there are only pre-releases using a modern python version).
What hardware is it compatible with?
It supports any ONVIF compatible IP camera as well as USB cameras and the raspberry pi camera module
Can u use home assistant?
Yes I may, I don’t have it setup now, but I do have an ultra PC that might run it.
kensand@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
I’ve personally been quite pleased with the combination of Frigate and some Amcrest POE cameras. Just make sure the cameras you are getting support RTSP though and you should be able to use them with Frigate.
Also make sure you block the cameras from reaching the public internet using your firewall, and only make them reachable from your Frigate host. Personally I use a VLAN with no internet access and enforce tagging at the switch level (i.e. don’t trust the cameras to maintain their own VLAN) settings.
brownmustardminion@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
This is the way. Frigate just had a major update and the UI is now amazing.
Drathro@dormi.zone 2 months ago
AmCrest and Frigate together are SO good. Integrating Frigate with Home Assistant was also insanely easy for quick viewing and notifications. That initial Frigate config is a bit of a bear- but once you’re past that I cannot speak more highly of it.
kensand@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Frankly, once you get more than just a few cameras, being able to edit a config file is so much better than having to click through settings for literally hours like with Shinobi or Motioneye.
TheOneCurly@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I have the exact same setup. It works perfectly and integrates really well into home assistant if that’s your thing. Getting a coral TPU also makes object detection really easy even on low power hardware.
NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Very smart solution!
Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
HomeAssistant + Frigate combo is just plain awesome. You can leverage the automations of HA through Frigate’s AI detection, so you get things like notifications.
dragnucs@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
I made some reasearch for avalable hardawar near me and found this one Hikvison DS-2CD1053G0-I
I’ll keep looking for ones that are more inside friendly.
Many thanks!
Dimand@lemmy.world 2 months ago
+1 for frigate. I have some old V2 wyze cameras with openmiko for rtsp functionality.
github.com/openmiko/openmiko
teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
I see several Amcrest options that look like they have integrated AI object detection. Frigate on the other hand says you should get a “Google Coral Accelerator”. Do you know if Frigate (or RTSP, I guess) has a way to leverage the built in detection capabilities of a camera (assuming they are built in, and not being offloaded to the cloud)? Or am I better of looking at the “dumb” Amcrest cameras, and just assuming all processing for all cameras will happen on my Frigate hardware?
Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 2 months ago
Coral Acceletor is only needed if you run setup that does not have GPU or enough CPU. Spare laptop usually has enough power to handle AI detection, but RasPi doesn’t. I run mine in CPU at rack server.
Cameras own detections are limited in my experience, and it is much harder to integrate to anything else, like HomeAssistant for notification & automation
AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 2 months ago
Frigate is absolutely fantastic, especially Frigate+.