What’s really inside vapes? We pulled them apart to find out
Submitted 4 months ago by Ilandar@aussie.zone to australia@aussie.zone
https://theconversation.com/whats-really-inside-vapes-we-pulled-them-apart-to-find-out-233334
Submitted 4 months ago by Ilandar@aussie.zone to australia@aussie.zone
https://theconversation.com/whats-really-inside-vapes-we-pulled-them-apart-to-find-out-233334
Taleya@aussie.zone 4 months ago
heating coil, chemical reservoir, battery? It’s not like it’s rocket science.
The biggest problem with these things is they use lithium batteries. That is not a single use item.
No1@aussie.zone 4 months ago
It’s insanity. The battery should be the most expensive part of the vape. The whole vape scene looked to be a big win for decreasing smoking and reducing costs.
Then big tobacco and the government got involved.
It’s literally buying rechargeable batteries and throwing them away after the first use. (Yes, I have yelled at someone when they did that with some Eneloops 🙄).
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
Replaceable batteries were the default.
makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 4 months ago
So, unfortunately, both of my kids who are in their early 20s are heavily into vaping and they claim that they are buying these grain market nicotine vapes.
I know what nicotine is and whatever is in these things is not nicotine.
This is completely unregulated and there’s a chemical in there that they are claiming is nicotine that is not, and it spins your head so hard it nearly puts you on your arse.
This is the real problem. What is inside these things, from a chemical perspective, and what are the kids breathing into their lungs?
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 4 months ago
In most cases insanely high concentration nicotine salts. Back before corpos got a hold of them, most everyone vaping used nicotine freebase in concentrations <20mg/ml. Freebase absorbs slowly, you had to work hard with 20mg/ml to get a headspin, like hyperventilating for a minute. Also less addictive. Salts absorb much faster, and the disposables (disgusting waste, but that’s the profit model) are at 50+mg/ml, so the dopamine hit is a lot more instant. Of course, cigarette manufacturers have been finding additives to make their products more addictive since at least the 1950s, so who whether or not and how long before those things make their way in.
You can still get reusable vapes and freebase nicotine, and it’s still the most effective way known for smoking cessation, but the enshittification has basically happened.
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
As a guy who makes his own juice, it’s nicotine derived usually from tobacco or sweet potatoes suspended in a solution of either USDA food grade vegetable glycerine or propylene glycol, which is then mixed in the appropriate desired concentration with USDA candy/food artificial flavorings and more USDA food grade VG/PG.
Taleya@aussie.zone 4 months ago
This is a discussion on the physical components and environmental impact of these units, not the health issues they cause.
I get you’re upset, but i don’t need to be hijacked over it.
saltesc@lemmy.world 4 months ago
It’s nicotine.
Head spins are when you intake more than you should or are used to. That’s nicotine’s most notorious symptom after having it. Go smoke a 16mg cigarette or put a patch on, you’ll spin and probably puke. Even your vape friends would probably get light headed or spin too.
But then also there’s the matter of it retailing at just $250 a gallon which would last some people up to a decade, most at least half a decade. The other 3 ingredients, water, vegetable glycerine and/or propylene glycol are even cheaper still since it’s in so much food. And that’s all that’s needed. 4 super common and dirt cheap ingredients.
If anyone’s adding things, they’re burning money. If anyone taking the high risk of substituting, they’re doing so for just a couple cents. But I don’t know of anything that could substitute nicotine that doesn’t cost at least 10× the price. It would be one of the moronic business decisions of all time.
You should educate yourself on the topic before asserting wildly incomparable assumptions as truth.
Aux@lemmy.world 4 months ago
That’s what you get when you allow big tobacco to kill traditional vaping. Where were you when they were pushing bills to destroy the industry and take over it?
ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 months ago
Enter the still li-ion but rechargeable and reusable 18650. Fuck disposables.
Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 4 months ago
letsgo bins are now a free source of 18650 cells for my thinkpad battery??