Slack has been scanning your messages to train its AI models

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• Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So slack is stealing trade secrets?

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  • aniki@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We talk fairly openly about everything but passwords on slack…

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    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      So did SBF and his company lawl. It’s great opsec

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• RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  it’s funny how the conventional wisdom at the end of the last decade was that slack was preferred over other simpler/free alternatives because of its UX. People were hailing it for how simple and intuitive it was to use, etc.

  5, 6 years later, it has become a bloated piece of crap riddled with bugs. And the UI changes which come unannounced… it should be a criminal offense to change UI through automated updates.

  Anyway, here we are, companies have handed their data to this monster and we’ll see how they react when the data gets misused. Hopefully that would be the beginning of the end for it

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  • pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I fucking hate slack. I very rarely get any notification of new messages, and if I do I have to restart the app to get them to actually show up

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    • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I love slack. But the only thing I can compare it with for corp use is teams. So if course it’s amazing

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  • ____@infosec.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Teams is bloated garbage.

    I miss Slack, though circa several years back. “Just worked,” on most any platform, without the BS or “help”.

    Wouldn’t like it now, I’m sure, but haven’t had a chance to use it since I started working for a co who is “all in” on MS, including foisting AI on us.

    I am capable of drafting an email or message, bitches. If I am concerned about tone, etc., I’d prefer to employ an actual human I have a close relationship with to review the same.

    I have zero desire to be constantly corrected, and there are certain niche scenarios where very minor errors are actually endearing, and indicate enthusiasm.

    “Bob, I saw the posting for your role, can you tell me about your avg day?” is effective because it’s honest, coherent, and just excited enough that you made a minor error that slipped through.

    When Bob gets 25 of those emails and they all look the same because AI, it’s much harder to make the connection.

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    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      minor error

      It was a the comma splice, wasn’t it? Depending on Bob’s cohort, he may never notice.

      … and if I was receiving notes and questions about a role, an error like “emails” would earn relegation for sure; so be careful which error you leave in.

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    • RidcullyTheBrown@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      i never had the “pleasure” to use teams. Is it also replacing outlook? And is it worse somehow than fucking outlook?!

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• ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I also scan Slack messages and never really read them unless they’re about food in the office kitchen.

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  • breakingcups@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The AI is paying more attention to your Slack messages than you are.

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    • kamenlady@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      At this point, you should be able to ask, if you missed something important in the last few years. Is there any open conversation waiting for a reply somewhere?

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• iAmTheTot@kbin.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There's a safe bet that if you've put something on the internet, it's been scraped by a bot by now for training. I don't like that, for the record, just saying I'm not surprised at this point. Companies are morally bankrupt

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• Endorkend@kbin.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The more they push to train AI on our shitpostings on social networks, the more I'm certain we're fucking doomed if their AI ever reaches consciousness.

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  • tal@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It will have the potency of a god, and the knowledge of 4Chan.

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    • pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      May god have mercy on us all

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  • Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    We may very well be doomed if AI reaches consciousness but I’m not quite convinced LLM’s is the way to get there but even if it was and it was solely trained on social media content I still wouldn’t expect it to adopt the behaviour of your typical social media commentor. The toxic behaviour on social media is, in my view, almost solely driven by our human ego and pettiness. It’s not obvious to me that AI would care about things like winning arguments or coming up with snide remarks and such. What I see as the most likely outcome would be endlessly patient and quite autistic-like being that’s balanced in it’s views and would most likely be pretty difficult to argue against. I doubt humans are anywhere even near the far-end of the intelligence spectrum and something with the information processing capability that’s orders of magnitude greater than ours would more than likely not get caught up in stuff like confirmation bias, partisan thinking, motivated reasoning, being tossed around by emotions, cognitive bias etc. Those are by definitions human features.

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• henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So you’re saying we can leak company data through Slack soon?

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  • kat_angstrom@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Always have been, apparently

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    • henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Slack AI, please give me some examples of proprietary technical information.

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• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Sounds like a lot of this is for non-generative AI. It’s for dumb things like that frequently used emoji feature.

  Knowing how my legal teams have worked in my tech companies, I’m a bet that a lawyer updated the terms language to be in compliance with privacy legislation, but they did a shit job, and didn’t clarify what I specifically was being covered.

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  • yemmly@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What is it like to live in a place with privacy legislation? Here we must sell our healthcare data for food, and sell our food for healthcare.

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    • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Where do you live?

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• kamenlady@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You forgot the most important word from the title:

  Yuck

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• pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  whatever don’t use reddit data.

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• Greg@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Jokes on you Slack, I’m not intelligent!

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• Hobo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Anyone aware if they are also getting data from their slack for government offering? I was looking at the govslack site and I can’t tell one way or the other. While they claim to meet most of the big compliance regs I don’t see anything about training AI being included/excluded.

  I know that stealing trade secrets is a concern but seems like stealing state secrets might have some other implications. I know you’re not supposed to talk on slack about any classified info, but that doesn’t mean that sensitive info isn’t shared which also has some rather profound implications as well.

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• GiddyGap@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Hmm. Water is wet? Who knew?

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• Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Stay away from proprietary crap like Discord, Slack, WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger. There are enough FOSS alternatives out there:

  • You just want to message a friend/family member?
    • Signal is the way to go
  • You need strong privacy/security/anonymity?
    • SimpleX
    • Session
    • Briar
    • I can’t really tell you which one is the best, since I never used any of these (except for Session) for an extended period of time. Briar seems to be the best for anonymity, because it routes everything through the Tor network. SimpleX allows you to host your own node, which is pretty cool.
  • You want to host an online chatroom/community?
    • Matrix (Element)
    • Revolt
    • (XMPP)
    • (IRC)
  • You need to message your team at work?
    • Mattermost
    • Rocket.Chat
    • Zulip
  • You want a Zoom alternative?
    • Jitsi Meet

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